Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license?

Daniel70 <[email protected]> Thu, 2 Jul 2026 22:11:23 +1000
Newsgroups alt.comp.freeware,alt.os.linux.mint,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 1/07/2026 10:20 pm, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> On 2026/7/1 11:28:50, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 1/07/2026 4:51 am, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>> On 2026-06-30, german newsgroups <[email protected]> wrote:
> []
>>>> free means if you want, you could get the source, rewrite it
>>>> et do a another version of the software !
>>>> may be the name will be "caca version" because, a team is
>>>> 10000 peoples !
>>>
>>> Compare "free as in speech" with "free as in beer".
>>>
>> To me, "free as in speech" is ME being able to say whatever I want ....
>> whereas with "free as in beer" that's someone wanting to get my
>> attention to SELL me something (maybe a brand of beer!!).
>>
>> Am I wrong??
> 
> In practice, yes.
> 
> The two "free"s are usually brought up in the context of software; that
> which is "free as in speech", usually applied to open source, means you
> are free to do whatever you want with it, including changing all sorts
> of settings; it usually doesn't cost anything either, though sometimes
> (e. g. some Linux distributions, AIUI) there is a minor charge for the
> convenience; the point usually being made when the two "free"s are
> brought up is that it's not cost that is the main freedom being
> considered. Free as in beer would be software that's free to download
> and use, but over which you may have little choice about how it works
> (including settings), or even information on how it works - it usually
> _isn't_ source-code available, for example. A _good_ (IMO) example of
> free-as-in-beer software is IrfanView (for private use - though Irfan
> does accept donations); there are plenty of bad examples, such as those
> that include malware or at least ad.s and information-grathering (I
> think many "app"s, and browser add-ons, are such). I'll leave others to
> give examples of good (and bad - there must be some!) free-as-in-speech
> softwares.
> 
Gee Whiz!! Didn't I just type that?? More succinct, or explicit, maybe, 
but the same. ;-P
-- 
Daniel70