Re: Geforce GTX 1650 4G - run in xp?

On Mon, 3/30/2026 4:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> I built an Asus pc year or so ago. Put a Gigabyte Geforce GTX 1650 4G
> video card in it. I'm pleased with its display. I wonder if one would
> work in my old ABIT pc running XP. Would that modern driver work in
> xp? Looked at Gigabyte site, couldn't get any hints. It would be a
> chore to install as it requires another ps cable to be run. Not to
> mention it costs twice as much as the board I'm now using.
> 

Normally, you would consult the NVidia driver update web page
and use their crappy search engine.

I think my GTX1080 (which is one generation behind your Turing 1650),
all it got was *one* Win7 driver (thank you, NVidia). Which means,
approximately, the 1650 is W10/W11 material.

OK, so I play the slot machine, and it does support Windows 7, or
it pretends to support Windows 7. With these things, you never know
until you try to install them.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/drivers/

     Geforce
     Geforce 16 series
     Geforce GTX 1650
     Windows 7 64-bit    <=== meant to imply, this is after they stopped the 32 bit drivers
     English
     Driver Type ALL

The returned driver 475.14, when we tried that a couple days
ago on W10, it did a "nope" for us. Even when it looks
like the search is "warm", it might not be exactly right.
That raises the odds (slightly), that it is really a Win7 driver.

Anyway, your question is answered for you, driver is not
even remotely close to WinXP 32-bit. It could be a WDDM Non-containerized
or a WDDM Containerized, and not an XDDM.

I have a 7900GT or so in the junk room, and that was my WinXP setup
(mobo dead). And that had (maybe) a single driver for Win10, as I had
Win10 on that machine, as well as everything else. But NVidia was
chomping at the bit, to cut off older OSes, so you cannot expect your
luck to hold out forever on these things. It's quite possible the 1650
in this machine, is the only computer in the room getting "fresh" updates,
as the GT1000 series stopped some days ago (officially). The 1650 is
a silicon generation ahead, Geforce 16 series, so it still gets drivers.

I don't know what you've discovered, but I notice that the 1650 "stutters"
a bit when you move large windows on the screen of my monitor. It
has 4GB of VRAM on board, the VRAM has way way more bandwidth
than the crossbar needs to drive my monitor. Why ? Why is it doing that ?
Sucky driver or what ??? Now, part of the reason, is it is a x4 lane card,
and does not make good usage of your x16 slot, and mine is in the x16 slot
right now. But the image on the screen, when the crossbar reads out 60 times
a second, that material should be in VRAM, and any compositing is via
DMA, and the VRAM is so so big (much larger than the 128MB compositing
is typically allocated), all the materials should be *inside* the card.
And it stutters.

It's not a bad stutter, but the only other card that stuttered
here, was my *PCI bus* FX5200 :-) Where the poor thing only
has 100MB of bus bandwidth. That's a good excuse for a stutter.
And it only stuttered for (Apple Windows) Quicktime movie player.
That was the only application coded to stutter.

The video card business, is just full of strangeness. Maybe I
should "switch to Linux" or something <snicker>. That would be
bound to fix it. I bet if I fitted an RTX 5090 it would
still stutter. Right ? I'm lucky that way. Born lucky.

   Paul