Re: Geforce GTX 1650 4G - run in xp?

On Mon, 30 Mar 2026 19:48:58 -0400, Paul <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Mon, 3/30/2026 4:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> I built an Asus pc year or so ago. Put a Gigabyte Geforce GTX 1650 4G
>> video card in it. I'm pleased with its display. I wonder if one would
>> work in my old ABIT pc running XP. Would that modern driver work in
>> xp? Looked at Gigabyte site, couldn't get any hints. It would be a
>> chore to install as it requires another ps cable to be run. Not to
>> mention it costs twice as much as the board I'm now using.
>> 
>
>Normally, you would consult the NVidia driver update web page
>and use their crappy search engine.
>
>I think my GTX1080 (which is one generation behind your Turing 1650),
>all it got was *one* Win7 driver (thank you, NVidia). Which means,
>approximately, the 1650 is W10/W11 material.
>
>OK, so I play the slot machine, and it does support Windows 7, or
>it pretends to support Windows 7. With these things, you never know
>until you try to install them.
>
>https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/drivers/
>
>     Geforce
>     Geforce 16 series
>     Geforce GTX 1650
>     Windows 7 64-bit    <=== meant to imply, this is after they stopped the 32 bit drivers
>     English
>     Driver Type ALL
>
>The returned driver 475.14, when we tried that a couple days
>ago on W10, it did a "nope" for us. Even when it looks
>like the search is "warm", it might not be exactly right.
>That raises the odds (slightly), that it is really a Win7 driver.
>
>Anyway, your question is answered for you, driver is not
>even remotely close to WinXP 32-bit. It could be a WDDM Non-containerized
>or a WDDM Containerized, and not an XDDM.
>
>I have a 7900GT or so in the junk room, and that was my WinXP setup
>(mobo dead). And that had (maybe) a single driver for Win10, as I had
>Win10 on that machine, as well as everything else. But NVidia was
>chomping at the bit, to cut off older OSes, so you cannot expect your
>luck to hold out forever on these things. It's quite possible the 1650
>in this machine, is the only computer in the room getting "fresh" updates,
>as the GT1000 series stopped some days ago (officially). The 1650 is
>a silicon generation ahead, Geforce 16 series, so it still gets drivers.
>
>I don't know what you've discovered, but I notice that the 1650 "stutters"
>a bit when you move large windows on the screen of my monitor. It
>has 4GB of VRAM on board, the VRAM has way way more bandwidth
>than the crossbar needs to drive my monitor. Why ? Why is it doing that ?
>Sucky driver or what ??? Now, part of the reason, is it is a x4 lane card,
>and does not make good usage of your x16 slot, and mine is in the x16 slot
>right now. But the image on the screen, when the crossbar reads out 60 times
>a second, that material should be in VRAM, and any compositing is via
>DMA, and the VRAM is so so big (much larger than the 128MB compositing
>is typically allocated), all the materials should be *inside* the card.
>And it stutters.
>
>It's not a bad stutter, but the only other card that stuttered
>here, was my *PCI bus* FX5200 :-) Where the poor thing only
>has 100MB of bus bandwidth. That's a good excuse for a stutter.
>And it only stuttered for (Apple Windows) Quicktime movie player.
>That was the only application coded to stutter.
>
>The video card business, is just full of strangeness. Maybe I
>should "switch to Linux" or something <snicker>. That would be
>bound to fix it. I bet if I fitted an RTX 5090 it would
>still stutter. Right ? I'm lucky that way. Born lucky.
>
>   Paul

Thanks Paul. I'll have to be satisfied with the video board I have now
in the Abit machine. And spare myself a ton of work and money.