Re: vacancy proposal - alt.religion.watchtower - convert vacant group to unmoderated

On 12/28/22 14:21, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> NightBulb.net <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> For your newsgroups file:
>> alt.religion.watchtower 	Watchtower Society - Jehovah's Witnesses
> 
>> COMMENTS:
> 
>> The newsgroup (alt.religion.watchtower) was first established as a
>> moderated group. See Message-ID <[email protected]> for
>> information. The moderation of this group has been abandoned for a very
>> long time. All moderation email addresses are defunct. Moderation is no
>> longer necessary nor desirable.
> 
>> There is constant, ongoing discussion of the Watchtower Society in other
>> alt.* groups that are off-topic. This group would provide a proper focal
>> point for those unmoderated discussions.
> 
>> These off-topic discussions have continued for years unabated while the
>> group founded for this very subject has been abandoned, dormant and
>> inaccessible due to the moderation lock and absence of moderators.
> 
>> Removal of the moderation lock will permit these discussions to be
>> separated into the group that was initially created for them.
> 
>> CHARTER:
> 
>> This formerly vacated group is re-activated for discussion and debate of
>> the teaching, doctrine, activities, and news of the Watchtower Society,
>> also known as Jehovah's Witnesses. Spam, commercial advertisements, and
>> illegal activity are prohibited.
> 
>> {MODERATION POLICY: unmoderated}
> 
> Sorry, dude, but there's no way to force all the world's News
> administrators to convert a moderated newsgroup to an unmoderated
> newsgroup just by proposing it and sending a newgroup control message.
> If any convert the group, you'll then have a mix of News sites with the
> Moderation flag set to "yes" and others on which it's set to "no". That
> makes a bad situation worse.
> 
> Please withdraw the proposal and do not send a newgroup message.
> 
> Find an appropriate existing unmoderated religion newsgroup in which to
> hold your discussions.

The newsgroup is inaccessible on all news servers at the moment because 
the moderation is permanently broken. This means that no one is able to 
post to it, at all, ever. How you can make that "worse" is by trolling 
about it.

Any server that sets it to unmoderated will simply carry the feed, which 
is then made accessible on some servers, which is less worse than 
currently. That doesn't make a bad situation worse. It makes a hopeless 
situation better. Any server that does not change the moderation, that 
has a user who wants to post, will get flack from their users, which 
they will deserve.

Who cares if some admins don't change the moderation? At least some 
servers will then have a reason for including the group in their list.

I will eventually send a cmsg, after I have seen some responses from 
server admins or someone from the Big8 acknowledges they are aware of 
the request.

Will a sysop please declare the group vacant? It is vacant. Then we can 
move on.

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