Re: Apple changed their documentation at my request but it proves they don't care about privacy

Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> And hiding SSIDs is a complete waste of time, which gains you nothing
>> in security or privacy. Don¢t do it.
> 
> Yep.

There are two fundamental issues which are making this task more difficult:
 1. The common trolls are *desperate* to infest this thread
    (and yet, not a single one of the trolls can possibly add value), 
 2. And, people who are NOT trolls, like Carlos above, still do not
    (yet) understand the topic because they're applying old knowledge.

Anyone who thinks he'll understand this topic who only knows the stone-age
networking basics (which we all know) will *never* understand this topic.

Anyone who says "yep" to that statement, fundamentally doesn't understand 
that hiding the broadcast works for every outfit on the planet we know of.

Except Apple.

When I write a thread, it's about something important most people 
can't even fathom, so it takes intelligence to understand the topic.

None of the common trolls, Hank or Franlin or Wolfan, et al. has the 
intelligence to even begin to understand this topic. 

Yet, these trolls, like Nuno Silva, feel *desperate* to say "something", 
(anything!) because they simply cannot comprehend the topic at hand.

However, some people are intelligent, who, unlike Nuno or Winston or 
Franklin or Hank, et al., have the intelligence to comprehend the topic.

Only the people who possess the minimum intelligence, can add value here.
Not the common trolls like Winston, Slootweg, Nuno Silva, Wolfan, et al.

Carlos, to his credit, is *trying* to bring his level of knowledge out of 
the stone age of networking, which, let's be clear, we all start with that.

But this topic is not from the stone age of networking.
This topic is new.

If people can't follow the trail of the BSSID from the home router to the 
mass surveillance team somewhere in Russia (or at R122 at Fort Mead), then 
they have not understood how *different* things are in the modern day.

Three fundamental modern facts need to be understood before someone, like 
Carlos did above, simply claims "yep" to something completely incorrect.

1. Apple iOS devices see & collect & store & upload BSSID/GPS pairs
   *COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY* than do Google Android devices.

   If you don't know that difference, you know nothing about this topic.
   You're in the stone age of knowledge.

   That isn't bad. It just means you have to seek to understand before
   you say "yep" to obviously incorrect assessments of the situation.

2. Apple stores, vets, culls, and distributes its internal WPS cloud db
   *COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY* than does Google/Mozilla (and others).

   If you don't know that difference, you know nothing about this topic.
   You're in the stone age of knowledge.

   That isn't bad. It just means you have to seek to understand before
   you say "yep" to obviously incorrect assessments of the situation.

If anyone is stuck in the stone age of knowledge level, that's fine, as 
there's nothing wrong with the stone-age knowledge that, oh, say, 
Winston spewed.

But spewing stone-age knowledge does not help when we all know the 
stone-age knowledge of networking.

What would help is if people understood the path of the BSSID/GPS pair.
-- 
When I write a thread, it's about something important most people 
can't even fathom, so it takes intelligence to understand the topic.