Re: Microsoft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery
InterLinked <[email protected]>
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On 6/30/2026 8:03 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-06-30, rbowman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Tue, 30 Jun 2026 21:52:32 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> >>> Much of that “jarring” comes from the fact that the whole Windows >>> environment is inherently unsuited to command-line operation, and >>> Microsoft can’t seem to do anything about that. >> >> Funny, I've been mostly using cmd on Windows for years with gVim as my >> primary editor. I will admit the relatively new Windows Terminal is nice. >> I can have a couple of Windows tabs and a tab for the WSL instance. About >> all I do in PowerShell is copypasta stuff I usually don't understand. > > I found a collection of Unix-style utilities (ls, grep, cut, uniq, > etc.) years ago. The .EXEs' date stamps range from 1999 to 2003. > They're enough for me to sort of pretend I'm using real tools, > rather than CMD.EXE's brain-damaged not-quite-equivalents. Maybe this is what you're alluding to, but the idea of UNIX utilities on Windows is not a new thing with WSL; it's been around for a quarter century via the UNIX Subsystem for Windows, which was built in to premium editions of Windows (e.g. Windows 7 Enterprise/Ultimate, which is what I still use). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Services_for_UNIX Then, you can run tools like grep, sed, etc. from Command Prompt. No emulators, virtualization, etc. is being used: C:\Users\interlinked>grep usage: grep [-abcEFGHhIiLlnoPqRrSsUvwx] [-A num] [-B num [-C[num]] [-e pattern] [-f file] [--binary-files=value] [--context[=num]] [--line-buffered] [pattern] [file ...] The subsystem is part of Windows but the tools are a separate download from Microsoft - or at least they were, like everything else historical, Microsoft has nuked them from their website, but they can still be found here: The actual utilities are available in an installer from Microsoft here (this one for Windows 7 x64): https://web.archive.org/web/20201015000000*/https://download.microsoft.com/download/6/2/1/6214608E-1A46-43DA-BEF4-B1A575F7CD26/Utilities%20and%20SDK%20for%20Subsystem%20for%20UNIX-based%20Applications_AMD64.exe Kind of basic, maybe, but anything too complex and I just SSH into a Linux server anyways. Windows isn't Linux and they serve different purposes.