Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s

On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 04:22:11 -0000 (UTC), Rich wrote:

> The "swarm offense" with cheap weapons creates a very different
> battlefield than the traditional one where both sides are lobbing
> ordinance at roughly the same rate and roughly the same cost per lob.

The lobs get a little pricey. The Zumwalt class ships were designed around 
the Advanced Gun System. The ships themselves had problems and had to call 
AAA for a tow home a couple of times. Then the Navy realized the AGS took 
very special ammunition at around a million a pop. The program was 
scrapped and the AGS systems removed.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Gun_System

BAE and Lockheed smiled all the way to the bank. They didn't even have the 
possible problem of the systems not working well.I don't think the Long-
Range Hypersonic Weapon is ready for prime time yet. There was talk about 
using it against Iran. The existing HIMARS launched missiles don't have 
enough range.

Fortunately the Navy still has the Arleigh-Burke class. They were going to 
stop building them before the Zumwalt class fell on its face.