AW: Government License

Jan Matèrne <jan-2P9/[email protected]> Wed, 2 Jul 2014 09:42:04 +0200
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Even if you could exclude cyber crime and spying from a legal use by =
your license - do you really think that these users would follow your =
license?

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Jan

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Von: Johannes Geppert [mailto:[email protected]]=20
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2014 09:37
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: Government License

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Is it maybe possible not to exclude people or organisations, but =
concrete usage scenarios instead?

Like cyber crime and/or spying

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Johannes




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2014-07-02 9:24 GMT+02:00 David Welton <[email protected]>:

> Closest I've seen in the 'free' area is licensing that forbids =
military
> uses.

Which is, once again, neither 'free software' nor open source because
it goes against the definition.  You can't have it both ways: you
can't exclude people from using it because they are military, gay,
Illinois nazis, Alaskan women, Liechtensteiners or whatever else you
happen to dislike.

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David N. Welton

http://www.dedasys.com/


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in the 'free' area is licensing that forbids military<br>&gt; =
uses.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Which is, once again, =
neither 'free software' nor open source because<br>it goes against the =
definition. &nbsp;You can't have it both ways: you<br>can't exclude =
people from using it because they are military, gay,<br>Illinois nazis, =
Alaskan women, Liechtensteiners or whatever else you<br>happen to =
dislike.<br><span style=3D'color:#888888'><br><span =
class=3Dhoenzb>--</span><br><span class=3Dhoenzb>David N. =
Welton</span><br><br><span class=3Dhoenzb><a =
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