Re: [VOTE] Combine the project user and dev mailing lists into user@ and dev@
Ralph Goers <[email protected]> Tue, 7 Mar 2017 21:59:16 -0700
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--Apple-Mail=_F653C047-820D-44DD-9166-539C3C5F398B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +1 Note that generally a -1 is a veto only on code commits. On everything = else it just means you are against the proposal. However, we generally = strive for consensus so great weight is given to binding votes that are = opposed. Ralph > On Mar 7, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote: >=20 > This is my +1. >=20 > If this is the incorrect voting format and we need to do a 2/3 = majority instead, please veto this and let me know. This situation is = not spelled out in the bylaws. >=20 > On 7 March 2017 at 22:20, Matt Sicker <[email protected] = <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > I may be missing some mailing lists considering I just subscribed to = half of them less than five minutes ago. >=20 > This is a vote to merge the various Apache Logging Services mailing = lists. The proposal is to combine them as follows: >=20 > log4j-dev@, log4php-dev@, log4net-dev@, log4cxx-dev@ -> = [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > log4j-user@, log4php-user@, log4net-user@, log4cxx-user@, general@ -> = [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >=20 > commits@ and private@ remain the same as before. >=20 > The proposal would also suggest that the old emails become aliases for = the combined email names so as not to lose any future emails. To = distinguish between projects, a subject tag can be added such as: >=20 > [java] > [net] > [cxx] > [php] >=20 > Though I wouldn't think such a tag is required, though it should help = in gaining the attention of the appropriate audience. >=20 > Voting: >=20 > +1: Yes, combine the mailing lists! > +0: Go ahead, don't care that much. > -0: Don't like it, but not vetoing it. > -1: No, don't do that! I have a better idea! >=20 > This vote follows the same "lazy consensus" (at least 3 +1 binding, no = -1/vetoes) we use for general releases and whatnot. The vote will be = open for at least 72 hours. >=20 > --=20 > Matt Sicker <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Matt Sicker <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> --Apple-Mail=_F653C047-820D-44DD-9166-539C3C5F398B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html = charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" = class=3D""><div class=3D"">+1</div><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Note that generally a -1 is a veto only = on code commits. On everything else it just means you are against the = proposal. However, we generally strive for consensus so great weight is = given to binding votes that are opposed.</div><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Ralph</div><br = class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On = Mar 7, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Matt Sicker <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" class=3D"">[email protected]</a>> = wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div = dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">This is my +1.<div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">If this is the incorrect voting format = and we need to do a 2/3 majority instead, please veto this and let me = know. This situation is not spelled out in the bylaws.</div></div><div = class=3D"gmail_extra"><br class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 7 = March 2017 at 22:20, Matt Sicker <span dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br = class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 = .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr" = class=3D"">I may be missing some mailing lists considering I just = subscribed to half of them less than five minutes ago.<div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">This is a vote to merge the various = Apache Logging Services mailing lists. The proposal is to combine them = as follows:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">log4j-dev@, log4php-dev@, log4net-dev@, log4cxx-dev@ -> <a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">[email protected]</a></div><div class=3D"">log4j-user@, = log4php-user@, log4net-user@, log4cxx-user@, general@ -> <a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">[email protected]</a></div><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">commits@ and private@ remain the same = as before.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The = proposal would also suggest that the old emails become aliases for the = combined email names so as not to lose any future emails. To distinguish = between projects, a subject tag can be added such as:</div><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">[java]</div><div = class=3D"">[net]</div><div class=3D"">[cxx]</div><div = class=3D"">[php]</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">Though I wouldn't think such a tag is required, though it = should help in gaining the attention of the appropriate = audience.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">Voting:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">+1: Yes, combine the mailing lists!</div><div class=3D"">+0: = Go ahead, don't care that much.</div><div class=3D"">-0: Don't like it, = but not vetoing it.</div><div class=3D"">-1: No, don't do that! I have a = better idea!</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">This vote follows the same "lazy consensus" (at least 3 +1 = binding, no -1/vetoes) we use for general releases and whatnot. The vote = will be open for at least 72 hours.<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font = color=3D"#888888" class=3D""><br clear=3D"all" class=3D""><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>-- <br class=3D""><div = class=3D"m_6566187786994531400gmail_signature">Matt Sicker <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">[email protected]</a>></div> </font></span></div></div> </blockquote></div><br class=3D""><br clear=3D"all" class=3D""><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>-- <br class=3D""><div = class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">Matt Sicker = <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">[email protected]</a>></div> </div> </div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_F653C047-820D-44DD-9166-539C3C5F398B--