Re: [VOTE] Combine the project user and dev mailing lists into user@ and dev@

Dominik Psenner <[email protected]> Thu, 9 Mar 2017 10:45:21 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.comp.apache.logging,gmane.comp.jakarta.log4j.devel,gmane.comp.apache.logging.log4cxx.devel
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The votes are way too scattered over the different mailing lists so that 
I didn't even find my own vote. ;-) Therefore I'm trying to summarize 
the current state of the vote:

log4j-dev@, log4php-dev@, log4net-dev@, log4cxx-dev@ ->[email protected]

Matt Sicker: +1
Ralph Goers: +1
Stefan Bodewig: +1
Sven Rautenverg: -1
Thorsten Schöning: -0
Ivan Habunek: -0
Dominik Psenner: +1
Remko Popma: +1
Mikael Ståldal: +0

Totals so far:
+1: 5
+0: 1
-0: 2
-1: 1

log4j-user@, log4php-user@, log4net-user@, log4cxx-user@, general@ ->[email protected]

Matt Sicker: -1
Ralph Goers: +1
Stefan Bodewig: -1
Sven Rautenverg: -1
Thorsten Schöning: -0
Ivan Habunek: -0
Dominik Psenner: +1
Remko Popma: +1
Mikael Ståldal: -1

Totals so far:
+1: 3
+0: 0
-0: 2
-1: 4

Sorry to anyone who's vote is missing.

On 2017-03-08 05:20, Matt Sicker wrote:
> I may be missing some mailing lists considering I just subscribed to 
> half of them less than five minutes ago.
>
> This is a vote to merge the various Apache Logging Services mailing 
> lists. The proposal is to combine them as follows:
>
> log4j-dev@, log4php-dev@, log4net-dev@, log4cxx-dev@ -> 
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> log4j-user@, log4php-user@, log4net-user@, log4cxx-user@, general@ -> 
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>
> commits@ and private@ remain the same as before.
>
> The proposal would also suggest that the old emails become aliases for 
> the combined email names so as not to lose any future emails. To 
> distinguish between projects, a subject tag can be added such as:
>
> [java]
> [net]
> [cxx]
> [php]
>
> Though I wouldn't think such a tag is required, though it should help 
> in gaining the attention of the appropriate audience.
>
> Voting:
>
> +1: Yes, combine the mailing lists!
> +0: Go ahead, don't care that much.
> -0: Don't like it, but not vetoing it.
> -1: No, don't do that! I have a better idea!
>
> This vote follows the same "lazy consensus" (at least 3 +1 binding, no 
> -1/vetoes) we use for general releases and whatnot. The vote will be 
> open for at least 72 hours.
>
> -- 
> Matt Sicker <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>


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    <p>The votes are way too scattered over the different mailing lists
      so that I didn't even find my own vote. ;-) Therefore I'm trying
      to summarize the current state of the vote:</p>
    <pre wrap="">log4j-dev@, log4php-dev@, log4net-dev@, log4cxx-dev@ -&gt; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></pre>
    <p>Matt Sicker: +1<br>
      Ralph Goers: +1<br>
      Stefan Bodewig: +1<br>
      Sven Rautenverg: -1<br>
      Thorsten Schöning: -0<br>
      Ivan Habunek: -0<br>
      Dominik Psenner: +1<br>
      Remko Popma: +1<br>
      Mikael Ståldal: +0</p>
    <p>Totals so far:<br>
      +1: 5<br>
      +0: 1<br>
      -0: 2<br>
      -1: 1</p>
    <pre wrap="">log4j-user@, log4php-user@, log4net-user@, log4cxx-user@, general@ -&gt; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>

Matt Sicker: -1
Ralph Goers: +1
Stefan Bodewig: -1
Sven Rautenverg: -1
Thorsten Schöning: -0
Ivan Habunek: -0
Dominik Psenner: +1
Remko Popma: +1
Mikael Ståldal: -1

Totals so far:
+1: 3
+0: 0
-0: 2
-1: 4
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    Sorry to anyone who's vote is missing.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-03-08 05:20, Matt Sicker wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CACmp6kosS1rXX76YwzCBK-e9Bw=Y_OQbx13q+cGX0E-zi18Mhg@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">I may be missing some mailing lists considering I
        just subscribed to half of them less than five minutes ago.
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>This is a vote to merge the various Apache Logging Services
          mailing lists. The proposal is to combine them as follows:</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>log4j-dev@, log4php-dev@, log4net-dev@, log4cxx-dev@ -&gt;
          <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></div>
        <div>log4j-user@, log4php-user@, log4net-user@, log4cxx-user@,
          general@ -&gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>commits@ and private@ remain the same as before.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>The proposal would also suggest that the old emails become
          aliases for the combined email names so as not to lose any
          future emails. To distinguish between projects, a subject tag
          can be added such as:</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>[java]</div>
        <div>[net]</div>
        <div>[cxx]</div>
        <div>[php]</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Though I wouldn't think such a tag is required, though it
          should help in gaining the attention of the appropriate
          audience.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Voting:</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>+1: Yes, combine the mailing lists!</div>
        <div>+0: Go ahead, don't care that much.</div>
        <div>-0: Don't like it, but not vetoing it.</div>
        <div>-1: No, don't do that! I have a better idea!</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>This vote follows the same "lazy consensus" (at least 3 +1
          binding, no -1/vetoes) we use for general releases and
          whatnot. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours.<br
            clear="all">
          <div><br>
          </div>
          -- <br>
          <div class="gmail_signature">Matt Sicker &lt;<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:[email protected]"
              target="_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</div>
        </div>
      </div>
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