RE: What is the current status of WSIF

"Todd Eisemann" <[email protected]> Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:10:35 -0700
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HI all

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Just a quick opinion.


We have been using WSIF for some web service and lots of POJO bound
invocations. It works well... Things have gone pretty well.   I'd love
to see WSIF move up to a newer WSDL4J parser.

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He have found a few thread sync problems in WSIF and have been able to
work around those.

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HOWEVER, we have found that IBM WebSphere runtime jar ALSO includes a
very different version of WSIF. The IBM version has horrible performance
and lots of thread synchronization problems. This has caused us no end
of pain.  In WebSphere, you cannot work the class path to use Apache
WSIF.

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Therefore, if you plan to use WSIF in WebSphere, I believe you will have
problems. However, if you use it anywhere else, I believe you will find
it to be a pleasant experience.


Thanks

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________________________________

From: sambit kumar dikshit [mailto:[email protected]]=20
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:57 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: What is the current status of WSIF

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Hi Ahmet,

   I could see the future is bright. We have been using it for a while
and successfully built a service invocation framework using WSIF and
extending some of the features. It is a really good stuff where you want
to invoke various types of services running on different protocol e.g
http, soap, jms, POJO, EJB etc.=20

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Regards

-Sambit =20

On Jun 12, 2007, at 7:40 AM, Ahmet Emre wrote:






We are starting to use some web services first time in our company.
There were few web service calls we had developed in the past and we
were using WSIF. Now we do expect more and more web service calls being
made and we do expect web services becoming an important part of the
architecture in a year or so.=20

How do you guys see WSIF in the future? In order to invoke Web Services
do you believe WSIF is the way to go? Or would you say WSIF is legacy
and focus on something else? As I researched little bit, WSIF community
is not very active anymore. There are many other things going on and it
looks like Service Component Artchitecture (SCA) and some Eclipse Web
Tools Platform (WTP) are the ones to consider first.=20

Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts on this subject.

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Just a quick opinion.<o:p></o:p></sp=
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We have been using WSIF for some web service and lots of POJO bound
invocations. It works well&#8230; Things have gone pretty well.&nbsp;&nbs=
p; I&#8217;d
love to see WSIF move up to a newer WSDL4J parser.<o:p></o:p></span></fon=
t></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>He have found a few thread sync prob=
lems
in WSIF and have been able to work around those.<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
</p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>HOWEVER, we have found that IBM WebS=
phere runtime
jar ALSO includes a very different version of WSIF. The IBM version has h=
orrible
performance and lots of thread synchronization problems. This has caused =
us no end
of pain. &nbsp;In WebSphere, you cannot work the class path to use Apache=
 WSIF.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Therefore, if you plan to use WSIF i=
n
WebSphere, I believe you will have problems. However, if you use it anywh=
ere
else, I believe you will find it to be a pleasant experience.<o:p></o:p><=
/span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><br>
Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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 kumar
dikshit [mailto:[email protected]] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 12, 20=
07 9:57
AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> wsif-user-28n8OjmUYWeuLBZoZLr/[email protected]=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: What is the c=
urrent
status of WSIF</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
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12.0pt'>Hi Ahmet,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp; &nbsp;I could see the future is bright. We have been using=
 it
for a while and successfully built a service invocation framework using W=
SIF
and extending some of the features. It is a really good stuff where you w=
ant to
invoke various types of services running on different protocol e.g http, =
soap,
jms, POJO, EJB etc.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
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12.0pt'>-Sambit&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
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12.0pt'>On Jun 12, 2007, at 7:40 AM, Ahmet Emre wrote:<o:p></o:p></span><=
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<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span style=3D'font-size:1=
0.0pt;
font-family:sans-serif'>We are starting to use some web services first ti=
me in
our company. &nbsp;There were few web service calls we had developed in t=
he
past and we were using WSIF. Now we do expect more and more web service c=
alls
being made and we do expect web services becoming an important part of th=
e
architecture in a year or so.</span></font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:sans-serif'>How
do you guys see WSIF in the future? In order to invoke Web Services do yo=
u
believe WSIF is the way to go? Or would you say WSIF is legacy and focus =
on
something else? As I researched little bit, WSIF community is not very ac=
tive
anymore. There are many other things going on and it looks like Service
Component Artchitecture (SCA) and some Eclipse Web Tools Platform (WTP) a=
re the
ones to consider first.</span></font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:sans-serif'>Thanks
for sharing your experience and thoughts on this subject.</span></font><o=
:p></o:p></p>

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