RE: What is the current status of WSIF

"Jackson, Douglas" <[email protected]> Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:33:23 -0400
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Hi!

We are using WSIF on Websphere, and are not aware of any problems - can
you

elaborate on which version you are seeing these problems?

-Doug.

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From: Todd Eisemann [mailto:[email protected]]=20
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: What is the current status of WSIF

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HI all

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Just a quick opinion.


We have been using WSIF for some web service and lots of POJO bound
invocations. It works well... Things have gone pretty well.   I'd love
to see WSIF move up to a newer WSDL4J parser.

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He have found a few thread sync problems in WSIF and have been able to
work around those.

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HOWEVER, we have found that IBM WebSphere runtime jar ALSO includes a
very different version of WSIF. The IBM version has horrible performance
and lots of thread synchronization problems. This has caused us no end
of pain.  In WebSphere, you cannot work the class path to use Apache
WSIF.

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Therefore, if you plan to use WSIF in WebSphere, I believe you will have
problems. However, if you use it anywhere else, I believe you will find
it to be a pleasant experience.


Thanks

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________________________________

From: sambit kumar dikshit [mailto:[email protected]]=20
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:57 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: What is the current status of WSIF

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Hi Ahmet,

   I could see the future is bright. We have been using it for a while
and successfully built a service invocation framework using WSIF and
extending some of the features. It is a really good stuff where you want
to invoke various types of services running on different protocol e.g
http, soap, jms, POJO, EJB etc.=20

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Regards

-Sambit =20

On Jun 12, 2007, at 7:40 AM, Ahmet Emre wrote:

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We are starting to use some web services first time in our company.
There were few web service calls we had developed in the past and we
were using WSIF. Now we do expect more and more web service calls being
made and we do expect web services becoming an important part of the
architecture in a year or so.=20

How do you guys see WSIF in the future? In order to invoke Web Services
do you believe WSIF is the way to go? Or would you say WSIF is legacy
and focus on something else? As I researched little bit, WSIF community
is not very active anymore. There are many other things going on and it
looks like Service Component Artchitecture (SCA) and some Eclipse Web
Tools Platform (WTP) are the ones to consider first.=20

Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts on this subject.

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We are using WSIF on Websphere, and =
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not aware of any problems &#8211; can you<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>elaborate on which version you are =
seeing
these problems?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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w:st=3D"on">[email protected]</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: What is the =
current
status of WSIF</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>HI all<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Just a quick =
opinion.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:
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We have been using WSIF for some web service and lots of POJO bound
invocations. It works well&#8230; Things have gone pretty =
well.&nbsp;&nbsp;
I&#8217;d love to see WSIF move up to a newer WSDL4J =
parser.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>He have found a few thread sync =
problems in
WSIF and have been able to work around =
those.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>HOWEVER, we have found that IBM =
WebSphere
runtime jar ALSO includes a very different version of WSIF. The IBM =
version has
horrible performance and lots of thread synchronization problems. This =
has
caused us no end of pain. &nbsp;In WebSphere, you cannot work the class =
path to
use Apache WSIF.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Therefore, if you plan to use WSIF =
in
WebSphere, I believe you will have problems. However, if you use it =
anywhere
else, I believe you will find it to be a pleasant =
experience.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><br>
Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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sambit kumar
dikshit [mailto:[email protected]] <br>
<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on"><b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sen</span></b></st1:PersonName><b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>t:</span></b> Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:57 =
AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">[email protected]</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: What is the =
current
status of WSIF</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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12.0pt'>Hi Ahmet,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp; &nbsp;I could see the future is bright. We have been =
using it
for a while and successfully built a service invocation framework using =
WSIF
and extending some of the features. It is a really good stuff where you =
want to
invoke various types of services running on different protocol e.g http, =
soap,
jms, POJO, EJB etc.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>On Jun 12, 2007, at 7:40 AM, Ahmet Emre =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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12.0pt'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>We are starting to use some web services first time in our =
company.
&nbsp;There were few web service calls we had developed in the past and =
we were
using WSIF. Now we do expect more and more web service calls being made =
and we
do expect web services becoming an important part of the architecture in =
a year
or so.</span></font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>How do
you guys see WSIF in the future? In order to invoke Web Services do you =
believe
WSIF is the way to go? Or would you say WSIF is legacy and focus on =
something
else? As I researched little bit, WSIF community is not very active =
anymore.
There are many other things going on and it looks like Service Component
Artchitecture (SCA) and some Eclipse Web Tools Platform (WTP) are the =
ones to
consider first.</span></font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks
for sharing your experience and thoughts on this =
subject.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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