Re: Audacity 3.0.0 RC 003 for testing.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 1:04 PM David Bailes <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 12:46, John Colket <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Steve, thanks for checking.  As you know I am on Windows, which I think I
>> neglected to say before but which I think you all know.  I wonder if it is
>> something in my configuration files....   I'll check into this later....
>>
>
> I can confirm the crash on Windows 10,
>

a)  This AUP file crashes for me on W10 with 3.0.0 RC03

b) 2.4.2 attempts to open it - but reports the missing data folder

Peter.



> David.
>
>
>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 7:39 AM Steve Fiddle <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 12:31, John Colket <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So last night, I was BLOCKED from attaching a ZIP file of my .aup file.
>>>> I just checked and my aup file with an empty project directory crashes
>>>> RC03 repeatedly.
>>>> Here is a link to the ZIP file:
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/haw9xtbpmi5b7wz/20200305-GCBS.zip?dl=0
>>>>
>>>
>>> That doesn't crash for me with RC3 on Linux, though I do of course get a
>>> warning about missing blockfiles, and then a project with no audio.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Later....
>>>>
>>>> - John
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 5:44 AM Peter Sampson <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 10:25 AM Peter Sampson <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 10:00 AM Peter Sampson <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 2:13 AM John Colket <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FYI. I seem to be doing something wrong.  When I drag-and-drop an
>>>>>>>> .aup file into Audacity 2.4.2, it complains:
>>>>>>>> ============================================
>>>>>>>> Error importing
>>>>>>>> "C:\Users......aup" is an Audacity Project file.
>>>>>>>> Use the 'File > Open' command to open Audacity Projects.
>>>>>>>> ============================================
>>>>>>>> I click OK, am PO'd, but life goes on.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not so with RC03 (Feb 24 2021, 52d04f)
>>>>>>>> So for the first .aup I tried to do this with Audacity hung.  The
>>>>>>>> second one worked OK. 🙂
>>>>>>>> They are both 1GB projects, so I do not want to send them along
>>>>>>>> just yet.
>>>>>>>> Project "Open"s in 2.4.2 OK.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Open in 3.0.0 causes crash.  I can send
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> C:\Users\requi\AppData\Local\Temp\Audacity_dbgrpt-13928-20210224T203453.zip
>>>>>>>> along if you are interested.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Crash seems to occur in wxWidgets called from ImportAUP.cpp(780):
>>>>>>>>             AudacityMessageBox(
>>>>>>>>                XO("Couldn't find the project data folder:
>>>>>>>> \"%s\"").Format(*value),
>>>>>>>>                XO("Error Opening Project"),
>>>>>>>>                wxOK | wxCENTRE,
>>>>>>>>                &window);
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Value is "200305-GCBS_data" which looks right?
>>>>>>>> Again, project Opens OK in 2.4.2.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can't spend any more time on this just now.  And I will be out of
>>>>>>>> town tomorrow and Saturday. We can talk Friday maybe.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry to give this to you. Zipped .aup only file attached.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Management Summary
>>>>>>> ----------------------------
>>>>>>> I tested all if this pretty thoroughly on more than one occasion in
>>>>>>> the past and AFAICT
>>>>>>> it was all working properly (second half) of this email will be a
>>>>>>> set of use-case tests.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So this crash is somewhat alarming
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The way that Audacity is suppose to work is
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Drag and drop onto an open Audacity project is effectively a de
>>>>>>> facto File>Import, so:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a) audio files van be dragged& dropped onto an Audacity Window,
>>>>>>> just  as they can be
>>>>>>> imported with the File>Import command
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> b) AUP or AUP3 files cannot be dragged and dropped onto an open
>>>>>>> Audacity project window
>>>>>>> just as they cannot be opened with the File>Import command
>>>>>>> In both these cases an error message is shown telling the user to
>>>>>>> use File>Open instead
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) Drag and drop onto a shortcut icon or onto an .exe/.app file is a
>>>>>>> de facto File>Open command
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a) AUP or AUP3 files can be dragged and dropped onto a shortcut icon
>>>>>>> or onto a .exe/,app file
>>>>>>> and Audacity will launch and open the project.  Just as is the case
>>>>>>> when using File>Open to open
>>>>>>> the project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> b) Audio files can be dragged and dropped onto a .exe/.app file and
>>>>>>> they will be "opened" in Audacity
>>>>>>> with a launch of Audacity and an implicit Import of the audio file
>>>>>>> (mote carefully that we do not actually
>>>>>>> "open" the audio file itself).  File>Open can be used in a similar
>>>>>>> way with audio files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> c) Audio files cannot be dragged and dropped onto an Audacity
>>>>>>> shortcut icon, it doesn't work.
>>>>>>> I don't know if this is intentional i.e. a "feature" or if it is a
>>>>>>> "bug"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> some notes here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i) In the course of UP development Leland experimented for a while
>>>>>>> in allowing the "Import" of Audacity
>>>>>>> projects, enabling both the command and the use to frag and drop to
>>>>>>> import or open an Audacity project.
>>>>>>> including importing a different project into an already existing
>>>>>>> project/
>>>>>>> Sadly this gave rise to some intractable bugs, so we withdrew this
>>>>>>> and reverted to our previous 2.4.2
>>>>>>> and earlier behaviors of not allowing Import of projects.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ii) an Easter egg has been allowed to remain whereby in 3.0.0 an AUP
>>>>>>> project can be imported into a
>>>>>>> 3.0.0 project - BUT an AUP3 project cannot.
>>>>>>> There is a small downside to having left this in, in that users my
>>>>>>> be confused as to why they can import
>>>>>>> AUP but not AUP3.  Personally I would block import of AUP into 3.0.0
>>>>>>> projects just for "consistency", but
>>>>>>> that's not the case.  It remains an undocumented Easter Egg.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> iii) 2b and 2c are technically a data impurity - in that we do not
>>>>>>> "Open" users' audio files.
>>>>>>> rather we allow use of this command to pseudo "Import" their audio
>>>>>>> file after Audacity
>>>>>>> makes the Open Project.
>>>>>>> This leads to user confusion, believing wrongly that they are
>>>>>>> operating directly on their WAV, MP3 etc
>>>>>>> audio file.
>>>>>>> In contrast data purity exists at the output end as you van only
>>>>>>> Save a Project and Export an audio file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now for the use-case tests.
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To set this up  use 2.4.2 to create a project and save it on your
>>>>>>> desktop as an AUP project test.aup and
>>>>>>> similarly use 3.30. RC03 to create a project and save this on your
>>>>>>> desktop as an AUP3 project test.aup3
>>>>>>> I made the projects by importing a 3 minute stereo song.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> UC1) D&D AUP onto open 2.4.2
>>>>>>> a) launch 2.4.2
>>>>>>> b) try to drag&drop test.aup onto it
>>>>>>> c) Observe: helpful error message
>>>>>>> This PO'd Joh (he says) but then it's always been this way
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> UC2) D&D AUP3 onto open 2.4.2
>>>>>>> a) launch 2.4.2
>>>>>>> b) try to drag&drop test.aup3 onto it
>>>>>>> c) Observe: error message saying filetype not recognized
>>>>>>> That is to be expected as when we built 2.4.2 we had no expectation
>>>>>>> of AUP3 files and thus
>>>>>>> no way to trap them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> UC3) D&D AUP3 onto open  3.0.0
>>>>>>> a) launch  3.0.0
>>>>>>> b) try to drag&drop test.aup3 onto it
>>>>>>> c) Observe: helpful error message telling you to use File>Open
>>>>>>> Instead
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> UC4) D&D AUP onto open 3.0.0
>>>>>>> a) launch  3.0.0
>>>>>>> b) try to drag&drop test.aup onto it
>>>>>>> c) Observe: the project is imported
>>>>>>> This is the "Easter Egg" - and is somewhat inconsistent with UC3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> BTW I think this "Easter Egg" occurs because technically Audacity
>>>>> 3.0.0 is not actually "Opening" an AUP project.
>>>>> Rater it is "Importing" it and converting it into an AUP3 project.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you look carefully at the progress message while this is taking
>>>>> p;ace you will observe that Audacity is telling you
>>>>> that it is "Importing AUP Project files..."
>>>>>
>>>>> So technically this  could be regarded as "pure" and "proper" behavior.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> UC5) D&D onto shortcut items on desktop
>>>>>>> a) D&D AUP onto 2.4.2 shortcut - it works
>>>>>>> b) D&D AUP3 onto 3.0.0 shortcut - it works
>>>>>>> c) D&D AUP onto 3.0.0 shortcut - it works
>>>>>>> d) D&D AUP3 onto 2.4.2 shortcut => error message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> UC6) D&D onto ,exe files
>>>>>>> a) D&D AUP onto Audacity242.exe  - it works
>>>>>>> b) D&D AUP3 onto  Audacity300.exe - it works
>>>>>>> c) D&D AUP onto  Audacity300.exe - it works
>>>>>>> d) D&D AUP3 onto  Audacity242.exe  => error message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So this looks from these use-case tests to be working as expected.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do realize that John's project that he wrote about is *much*
>>>>>>> bigger than my test projects
>>>>>>> here - so I will try to find time later today to repeat these tests
>>>>>>> with a pair of 1GB projects.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I repeated these tests with a one hour stereo wav file of music -
>>>>>> both AUP3 and AUP c. 1.2GB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All tests still worked fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 10:29 AM Peter Sampson <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 3:08 PM Leland <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The packaging/install/cmake issue is still valid, but the other
>>>>>>>>>> issue seems to be related to Zam plugins only.  Still researching though.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I L*O*V*E the Zam VU meter  😎
>>>>>>>>> http://www.zamaudio.com/?p=976
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any chance we could make one of these for Audacity ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Peter.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Leland <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 24, 2021 8:22 AM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Audacity-devel] Audacity 3.0.0 RC 003 for
>>>>>>>>>> testing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bummer, I’ve just found a couple of LV2 problems on Linux.  One
>>>>>>>>>> is simply a packaging/install/cmake issue.  The other one is a hang when
>>>>>>>>>> using (any, I think) LV2 plugins a second time.  Doesn’t have to be the
>>>>>>>>>> same LV2 plugin either, just any LV2 plugin.  At least that’s what it seems
>>>>>>>>>> like right now.  Just identified and haven’t had a chance to dig further.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* James Crook <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 24, 2021 7:17 AM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* audacity-devel <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [Audacity-devel] Audacity 3.0.0 RC 003 for testing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We've addressed bug 2673 and I've spun new release candidates,
>>>>>>>>>> RC03.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.fosshub.com/Audacity-devel.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please give them a good workout.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --James
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> audacity-win-3.0.0rc03.exe    (application/x-msdownload) - 29376712 bytes
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SHA-256 c9b98d11b27b60acc54bd637dd057dc8a5cdbdea3e2bb9ac54c6ba026870af49
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> audacity-win-3.0.0rc03.zip    (application/x-zip-compressed) - 12507830 bytes
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SHA-256 744551b725d9d38aa8a6825231e1ef5a813c8fe034b59fe0b29328b92b40d834
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> audacity-man-3.0.0rc03.zip    (application/x-zip-compressed) - 23114150 bytes
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SHA-256 e037890b70a556eff533cee9ab0a7bcf07957efba4612801eb8906b3ab99ace0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> audacity-macos-3.0.0rc03.dmg        (n/a) - 41327238 bytes
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SHA-256 232caec5a8805673c02fd04f812149bf7fe70385e42a4fd662125b424b8aa33c
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> audacity-minsrc-3.0.0rc03.tar.xz        (n/a) - 13299040 bytes
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SHA-256 df18b4bb8811cb042a5223513ce1c07a4162f84ad90e9e9ae2ebf4782d039a8c
>>>>>>>>>>
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