Re: Audacity 3.0.0 RC 003 for testing.
James Crook <[email protected]>
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Thank you! I've logged it at: https://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2679 --James On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 22:11, John Colket <[email protected]> wrote: > James, congratulations on making a speedy fix. I apologize for being in > such a rush to present the issue earlier. Tested OK in Audacity > 3.0.0-alpha-Feb 25 2021, Commit Id: > 803fe8 of Thu Feb 25 16:28:46 2021 +0000 > > This leaves us with a related issue: > Download and unzip audacity project at > https://www.dropbox.com/s/lbry0aokq8x60nn/abcde.zip?dl=0 > > On Audacity 2.4.2, open abcde.aup. Project opens fine and audio plays > fine. Close. > > On Audacity 3.0.0 sees project in Recent File List from 2.4.2, but project > fails to open with "Could not find project data folder" error. > > This is not a crash, but it is a regression on 2.4.2. Root cause of > difficulty is renamed project and directory. > > - John > > > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 12:58 PM Peter Sampson < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 3:34 PM Peter Sampson < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 1:45 PM John Colket <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> David, Peter, >>>> >>>> Thanks for your reports - now I can enjoy my day out of town in >>>> peace. 🙂 >>>> >>> >>> Logged as P1 regression Bug #2677 >>> *Bug 2677* <https://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2677> - Win/Mac: >>> An AUP file can crash Audacity when opened in 3.0.0 >>> >> >> James has made a fix - and I have just tested this as OK on W10 and Mac >> >> The actual issue was that if the AUP's data folder was >> missing/deleted/renamed/moved >> then this caused the crash in Audacity 3.0.0 RC03. >> >> In contrast in 2.4.2 this was handled gracefully with proper error >> reporting - now the same >> obtains with the latest alpha build for 3.0.0. >> >> Peter. >> >> >> >>> >>> Peter. >>> >>> >>> >>>> - John >>>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 8:12 AM Peter Sampson < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 1:04 PM David Bailes <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 12:46, John Colket <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Steve, thanks for checking. As you know I am on Windows, which I >>>>>>> think I neglected to say before but which I think you all know. I wonder >>>>>>> if it is something in my configuration files.... I'll check into this >>>>>>> later.... >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I can confirm the crash on Windows 10, >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> a) This AUP file crashes for me on W10 with 3.0.0 RC03 >>>>> >>>>> b) 2.4.2 attempts to open it - but reports the missing data folder >>>>> >>>>> Peter. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> David. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 7:39 AM Steve Fiddle < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 12:31, John Colket <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So last night, I was BLOCKED from attaching a ZIP file of my .aup >>>>>>>>> file. >>>>>>>>> I just checked and my aup file with an empty project directory >>>>>>>>> crashes RC03 repeatedly. >>>>>>>>> Here is a link to the ZIP file: >>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/haw9xtbpmi5b7wz/20200305-GCBS.zip?dl=0 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That doesn't crash for me with RC3 on Linux, though I do of course >>>>>>>> get a warning about missing blockfiles, and then a project with no audio. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Later.... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 5:44 AM Peter Sampson < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 10:25 AM Peter Sampson < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 10:00 AM Peter Sampson < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 2:13 AM John Colket <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> FYI. I seem to be doing something wrong. When I drag-and-drop >>>>>>>>>>>>> an .aup file into Audacity 2.4.2, it complains: >>>>>>>>>>>>> ============================================ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Error importing >>>>>>>>>>>>> "C:\Users......aup" is an Audacity Project file. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Use the 'File > Open' command to open Audacity Projects. >>>>>>>>>>>>> ============================================ >>>>>>>>>>>>> I click OK, am PO'd, but life goes on. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so with RC03 (Feb 24 2021, 52d04f) >>>>>>>>>>>>> So for the first .aup I tried to do this with Audacity hung. >>>>>>>>>>>>> The second one worked OK. 🙂 >>>>>>>>>>>>> They are both 1GB projects, so I do not want to send them >>>>>>>>>>>>> along just yet. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Project "Open"s in 2.4.2 OK. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Open in 3.0.0 causes crash. I can send >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> C:\Users\requi\AppData\Local\Temp\Audacity_dbgrpt-13928-20210224T203453.zip >>>>>>>>>>>>> along if you are interested. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Crash seems to occur in wxWidgets called from >>>>>>>>>>>>> ImportAUP.cpp(780): >>>>>>>>>>>>> AudacityMessageBox( >>>>>>>>>>>>> XO("Couldn't find the project data folder: >>>>>>>>>>>>> \"%s\"").Format(*value), >>>>>>>>>>>>> XO("Error Opening Project"), >>>>>>>>>>>>> wxOK | wxCENTRE, >>>>>>>>>>>>> &window); >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Value is "200305-GCBS_data" which looks right? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, project Opens OK in 2.4.2. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't spend any more time on this just now. And I will be >>>>>>>>>>>>> out of town tomorrow and Saturday. We can talk Friday maybe. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry to give this to you. Zipped .aup only file attached. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Management Summary >>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>> I tested all if this pretty thoroughly on more than one >>>>>>>>>>>> occasion in the past and AFAICT >>>>>>>>>>>> it was all working properly (second half) of this email will be >>>>>>>>>>>> a set of use-case tests. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So this crash is somewhat alarming >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The way that Audacity is suppose to work is >>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Drag and drop onto an open Audacity project is effectively a >>>>>>>>>>>> de facto File>Import, so: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> a) audio files van be dragged& dropped onto an Audacity Window, >>>>>>>>>>>> just as they can be >>>>>>>>>>>> imported with the File>Import command >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> b) AUP or AUP3 files cannot be dragged and dropped onto an open >>>>>>>>>>>> Audacity project window >>>>>>>>>>>> just as they cannot be opened with the File>Import command >>>>>>>>>>>> In both these cases an error message is shown telling the user >>>>>>>>>>>> to use File>Open instead >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Drag and drop onto a shortcut icon or onto an .exe/.app file >>>>>>>>>>>> is a de facto File>Open command >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> a) AUP or AUP3 files can be dragged and dropped onto a shortcut >>>>>>>>>>>> icon or onto a .exe/,app file >>>>>>>>>>>> and Audacity will launch and open the project. Just as is the >>>>>>>>>>>> case when using File>Open to open >>>>>>>>>>>> the project. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> b) Audio files can be dragged and dropped onto a .exe/.app file >>>>>>>>>>>> and they will be "opened" in Audacity >>>>>>>>>>>> with a launch of Audacity and an implicit Import of the audio >>>>>>>>>>>> file (mote carefully that we do not actually >>>>>>>>>>>> "open" the audio file itself). File>Open can be used in a >>>>>>>>>>>> similar way with audio files. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> c) Audio files cannot be dragged and dropped onto an Audacity >>>>>>>>>>>> shortcut icon, it doesn't work. >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know if this is intentional i.e. a "feature" or if it >>>>>>>>>>>> is a "bug" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> some notes here. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> i) In the course of UP development Leland experimented for a >>>>>>>>>>>> while in allowing the "Import" of Audacity >>>>>>>>>>>> projects, enabling both the command and the use to frag and >>>>>>>>>>>> drop to import or open an Audacity project. >>>>>>>>>>>> including importing a different project into an already >>>>>>>>>>>> existing project/ >>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly this gave rise to some intractable bugs, so we withdrew >>>>>>>>>>>> this and reverted to our previous 2.4.2 >>>>>>>>>>>> and earlier behaviors of not allowing Import of projects. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ii) an Easter egg has been allowed to remain whereby in 3.0.0 >>>>>>>>>>>> an AUP project can be imported into a >>>>>>>>>>>> 3.0.0 project - BUT an AUP3 project cannot. >>>>>>>>>>>> There is a small downside to having left this in, in that users >>>>>>>>>>>> my be confused as to why they can import >>>>>>>>>>>> AUP but not AUP3. Personally I would block import of AUP into >>>>>>>>>>>> 3.0.0 projects just for "consistency", but >>>>>>>>>>>> that's not the case. It remains an undocumented Easter Egg. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> iii) 2b and 2c are technically a data impurity - in that we do >>>>>>>>>>>> not "Open" users' audio files. >>>>>>>>>>>> rather we allow use of this command to pseudo "Import" their >>>>>>>>>>>> audio file after Audacity >>>>>>>>>>>> makes the Open Project. >>>>>>>>>>>> This leads to user confusion, believing wrongly that they are >>>>>>>>>>>> operating directly on their WAV, MP3 etc >>>>>>>>>>>> audio file. >>>>>>>>>>>> In contrast data purity exists at the output end as you van >>>>>>>>>>>> only Save a Project and Export an audio file. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now for the use-case tests. >>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To set this up use 2.4.2 to create a project and save it on >>>>>>>>>>>> your desktop as an AUP project test.aup and >>>>>>>>>>>> similarly use 3.30. RC03 to create a project and save this on >>>>>>>>>>>> your desktop as an AUP3 project test.aup3 >>>>>>>>>>>> I made the projects by importing a 3 minute stereo song. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> UC1) D&D AUP onto open 2.4.2 >>>>>>>>>>>> a) launch 2.4.2 >>>>>>>>>>>> b) try to drag&drop test.aup onto it >>>>>>>>>>>> c) Observe: helpful error message >>>>>>>>>>>> This PO'd Joh (he says) but then it's always been this way >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> UC2) D&D AUP3 onto open 2.4.2 >>>>>>>>>>>> a) launch 2.4.2 >>>>>>>>>>>> b) try to drag&drop test.aup3 onto it >>>>>>>>>>>> c) Observe: error message saying filetype not recognized >>>>>>>>>>>> That is to be expected as when we built 2.4.2 we had no >>>>>>>>>>>> expectation of AUP3 files and thus >>>>>>>>>>>> no way to trap them. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> UC3) D&D AUP3 onto open 3.0.0 >>>>>>>>>>>> a) launch 3.0.0 >>>>>>>>>>>> b) try to drag&drop test.aup3 onto it >>>>>>>>>>>> c) Observe: helpful error message telling you to use File>Open >>>>>>>>>>>> Instead >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> UC4) D&D AUP onto open 3.0.0 >>>>>>>>>>>> a) launch 3.0.0 >>>>>>>>>>>> b) try to drag&drop test.aup onto it >>>>>>>>>>>> c) Observe: the project is imported >>>>>>>>>>>> This is the "Easter Egg" - and is somewhat inconsistent with UC3 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> BTW I think this "Easter Egg" occurs because technically Audacity >>>>>>>>>> 3.0.0 is not actually "Opening" an AUP project. >>>>>>>>>> Rater it is "Importing" it and converting it into an AUP3 >>>>>>>>>> project. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you look carefully at the progress message while this is >>>>>>>>>> taking p;ace you will observe that Audacity is telling you >>>>>>>>>> that it is "Importing AUP Project files..." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So technically this could be regarded as "pure" and "proper" >>>>>>>>>> behavior. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Peter. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> UC5) D&D onto shortcut items on desktop >>>>>>>>>>>> a) D&D AUP onto 2.4.2 shortcut - it works >>>>>>>>>>>> b) D&D AUP3 onto 3.0.0 shortcut - it works >>>>>>>>>>>> c) D&D AUP onto 3.0.0 shortcut - it works >>>>>>>>>>>> d) D&D AUP3 onto 2.4.2 shortcut => error message >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> UC6) D&D onto ,exe files >>>>>>>>>>>> a) D&D AUP onto Audacity242.exe - it works >>>>>>>>>>>> b) D&D AUP3 onto Audacity300.exe - it works >>>>>>>>>>>> c) D&D AUP onto Audacity300.exe - it works >>>>>>>>>>>> d) D&D AUP3 onto Audacity242.exe => error message >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So this looks from these use-case tests to be working as >>>>>>>>>>>> expected. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I do realize that John's project that he wrote about is *much* >>>>>>>>>>>> bigger than my test projects >>>>>>>>>>>> here - so I will try to find time later today to repeat these >>>>>>>>>>>> tests with a pair of 1GB projects. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So I repeated these tests with a one hour stereo wav file of >>>>>>>>>>> music - both AUP3 and AUP c. 1.2GB >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> All tests still worked fine. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Peter. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Peter. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - John >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 10:29 AM Peter Sampson < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 3:08 PM Leland <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The packaging/install/cmake issue is still valid, but the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other issue seems to be related to Zam plugins only. Still researching >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I L*O*V*E the Zam VU meter 😎 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zamaudio.com/?p=976 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any chance we could make one of these for Audacity ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Leland <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 24, 2021 8:22 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Audacity-devel] Audacity 3.0.0 RC 003 for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> testing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bummer, I’ve just found a couple of LV2 problems on Linux. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One is simply a packaging/install/cmake issue. The other one is a hang >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when using (any, I think) LV2 plugins a second time. Doesn’t have to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same LV2 plugin either, just any LV2 plugin. At least that’s what it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems like right now. Just identified and haven’t had a chance to dig >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> further. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* James Crook <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 24, 2021 7:17 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* audacity-devel <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [Audacity-devel] Audacity 3.0.0 RC 003 for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> testing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've addressed bug 2673 and I've spun new release >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidates, RC03. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.fosshub.com/Audacity-devel.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please give them a good workout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --James >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audacity-win-3.0.0rc03.exe (application/x-msdownload) - 29376712 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SHA-256 c9b98d11b27b60acc54bd637dd057dc8a5cdbdea3e2bb9ac54c6ba026870af49 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audacity-win-3.0.0rc03.zip (application/x-zip-compressed) - 12507830 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SHA-256 744551b725d9d38aa8a6825231e1ef5a813c8fe034b59fe0b29328b92b40d834 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audacity-man-3.0.0rc03.zip (application/x-zip-compressed) - 23114150 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SHA-256 e037890b70a556eff533cee9ab0a7bcf07957efba4612801eb8906b3ab99ace0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audacity-macos-3.0.0rc03.dmg (n/a) - 41327238 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SHA-256 232caec5a8805673c02fd04f812149bf7fe70385e42a4fd662125b424b8aa33c >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audacity-minsrc-3.0.0rc03.tar.xz (n/a) - 13299040 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SHA-256 df18b4bb8811cb042a5223513ce1c07a4162f84ad90e9e9ae2ebf4782d039a8c >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audacity-devel mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> audacity-devel mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> audacity-devel mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> audacity-devel mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> audacity-devel mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> audacity-devel mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> audacity-devel mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> audacity-devel mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ > audacity-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel > _______________________________________________ audacity-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel