Re: Audacity 3.0.0 RC 003 for testing.

James, congratulations on making a speedy fix.  I apologize for being in
such a rush to present the issue earlier.  Tested OK in Audacity
3.0.0-alpha-Feb 25 2021, Commit Id:
803fe8 of Thu Feb 25 16:28:46 2021 +0000

This leaves us with a related issue:
Download and unzip audacity project at
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lbry0aokq8x60nn/abcde.zip?dl=0

On Audacity 2.4.2, open abcde.aup.  Project opens fine and audio plays
fine.  Close.

On Audacity 3.0.0 sees project in Recent File List from 2.4.2, but project
fails to open with "Could not find project data folder" error.

This is not a crash, but it is a regression on 2.4.2.  Root cause of
difficulty is renamed project and directory.

- John



On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 12:58 PM Peter Sampson <
[email protected]> wrote:

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>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 3:34 PM Peter Sampson <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 1:45 PM John Colket <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> David, Peter,
>>>
>>>    Thanks for your reports - now I can enjoy my day out of town in
>>> peace.  🙂
>>>
>>
>> Logged as P1 regression Bug #2677
>> *Bug 2677* <https://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2677> - Win/Mac:
>> An AUP file can crash Audacity when opened in 3.0.0
>>
>
> James has made a fix - and I have just tested this as OK on W10 and Mac
>
> The actual issue was that if the AUP's data folder was
> missing/deleted/renamed/moved
> then this caused the crash in Audacity 3.0.0 RC03.
>
> In contrast in 2.4.2 this was handled gracefully with proper error
> reporting - now the same
> obtains with the latest alpha build for 3.0.0.
>
> Peter.
>
>
>
>>
>> Peter.
>>
>>
>>
>>> - John
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 8:12 AM Peter Sampson <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 1:04 PM David Bailes <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 12:46, John Colket <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve, thanks for checking.  As you know I am on Windows, which I
>>>>>> think I neglected to say before but which I think you all know.  I wonder
>>>>>> if it is something in my configuration files....   I'll check into this
>>>>>> later....
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can confirm the crash on Windows 10,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> a)  This AUP file crashes for me on W10 with 3.0.0 RC03
>>>>
>>>> b) 2.4.2 attempts to open it - but reports the missing data folder
>>>>
>>>> Peter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 7:39 AM Steve Fiddle <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 12:31, John Colket <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So last night, I was BLOCKED from attaching a ZIP file of my .aup
>>>>>>>> file.
>>>>>>>> I just checked and my aup file with an empty project directory
>>>>>>>> crashes RC03 repeatedly.
>>>>>>>> Here is a link to the ZIP file:
>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/haw9xtbpmi5b7wz/20200305-GCBS.zip?dl=0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That doesn't crash for me with RC3 on Linux, though I do of course
>>>>>>> get a warning about missing blockfiles, and then a project with no audio.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Later....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 5:44 AM Peter Sampson <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 10:25 AM Peter Sampson <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 10:00 AM Peter Sampson <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 2:13 AM John Colket <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> FYI. I seem to be doing something wrong.  When I drag-and-drop
>>>>>>>>>>>> an .aup file into Audacity 2.4.2, it complains:
>>>>>>>>>>>> ============================================
>>>>>>>>>>>> Error importing
>>>>>>>>>>>> "C:\Users......aup" is an Audacity Project file.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Use the 'File > Open' command to open Audacity Projects.
>>>>>>>>>>>> ============================================
>>>>>>>>>>>> I click OK, am PO'd, but life goes on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not so with RC03 (Feb 24 2021, 52d04f)
>>>>>>>>>>>> So for the first .aup I tried to do this with Audacity hung.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The second one worked OK. 🙂
>>>>>>>>>>>> They are both 1GB projects, so I do not want to send them along
>>>>>>>>>>>> just yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Project "Open"s in 2.4.2 OK.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Open in 3.0.0 causes crash.  I can send
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> C:\Users\requi\AppData\Local\Temp\Audacity_dbgrpt-13928-20210224T203453.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>> along if you are interested.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Crash seems to occur in wxWidgets called from
>>>>>>>>>>>> ImportAUP.cpp(780):
>>>>>>>>>>>>             AudacityMessageBox(
>>>>>>>>>>>>                XO("Couldn't find the project data folder:
>>>>>>>>>>>> \"%s\"").Format(*value),
>>>>>>>>>>>>                XO("Error Opening Project"),
>>>>>>>>>>>>                wxOK | wxCENTRE,
>>>>>>>>>>>>                &window);
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Value is "200305-GCBS_data" which looks right?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, project Opens OK in 2.4.2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't spend any more time on this just now.  And I will be
>>>>>>>>>>>> out of town tomorrow and Saturday. We can talk Friday maybe.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry to give this to you. Zipped .aup only file attached.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Management Summary
>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> I tested all if this pretty thoroughly on more than one occasion
>>>>>>>>>>> in the past and AFAICT
>>>>>>>>>>> it was all working properly (second half) of this email will be
>>>>>>>>>>> a set of use-case tests.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So this crash is somewhat alarming
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The way that Audacity is suppose to work is
>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Drag and drop onto an open Audacity project is effectively a
>>>>>>>>>>> de facto File>Import, so:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> a) audio files van be dragged& dropped onto an Audacity Window,
>>>>>>>>>>> just  as they can be
>>>>>>>>>>> imported with the File>Import command
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> b) AUP or AUP3 files cannot be dragged and dropped onto an open
>>>>>>>>>>> Audacity project window
>>>>>>>>>>> just as they cannot be opened with the File>Import command
>>>>>>>>>>> In both these cases an error message is shown telling the user
>>>>>>>>>>> to use File>Open instead
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Drag and drop onto a shortcut icon or onto an .exe/.app file
>>>>>>>>>>> is a de facto File>Open command
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> a) AUP or AUP3 files can be dragged and dropped onto a shortcut
>>>>>>>>>>> icon or onto a .exe/,app file
>>>>>>>>>>> and Audacity will launch and open the project.  Just as is the
>>>>>>>>>>> case when using File>Open to open
>>>>>>>>>>> the project.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> b) Audio files can be dragged and dropped onto a .exe/.app file
>>>>>>>>>>> and they will be "opened" in Audacity
>>>>>>>>>>> with a launch of Audacity and an implicit Import of the audio
>>>>>>>>>>> file (mote carefully that we do not actually
>>>>>>>>>>> "open" the audio file itself).  File>Open can be used in a
>>>>>>>>>>> similar way with audio files.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> c) Audio files cannot be dragged and dropped onto an Audacity
>>>>>>>>>>> shortcut icon, it doesn't work.
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know if this is intentional i.e. a "feature" or if it is
>>>>>>>>>>> a "bug"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> some notes here.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i) In the course of UP development Leland experimented for a
>>>>>>>>>>> while in allowing the "Import" of Audacity
>>>>>>>>>>> projects, enabling both the command and the use to frag and drop
>>>>>>>>>>> to import or open an Audacity project.
>>>>>>>>>>> including importing a different project into an already existing
>>>>>>>>>>> project/
>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly this gave rise to some intractable bugs, so we withdrew
>>>>>>>>>>> this and reverted to our previous 2.4.2
>>>>>>>>>>> and earlier behaviors of not allowing Import of projects.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ii) an Easter egg has been allowed to remain whereby in 3.0.0 an
>>>>>>>>>>> AUP project can be imported into a
>>>>>>>>>>> 3.0.0 project - BUT an AUP3 project cannot.
>>>>>>>>>>> There is a small downside to having left this in, in that users
>>>>>>>>>>> my be confused as to why they can import
>>>>>>>>>>> AUP but not AUP3.  Personally I would block import of AUP into
>>>>>>>>>>> 3.0.0 projects just for "consistency", but
>>>>>>>>>>> that's not the case.  It remains an undocumented Easter Egg.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> iii) 2b and 2c are technically a data impurity - in that we do
>>>>>>>>>>> not "Open" users' audio files.
>>>>>>>>>>> rather we allow use of this command to pseudo "Import" their
>>>>>>>>>>> audio file after Audacity
>>>>>>>>>>> makes the Open Project.
>>>>>>>>>>> This leads to user confusion, believing wrongly that they are
>>>>>>>>>>> operating directly on their WAV, MP3 etc
>>>>>>>>>>> audio file.
>>>>>>>>>>> In contrast data purity exists at the output end as you van only
>>>>>>>>>>> Save a Project and Export an audio file.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now for the use-case tests.
>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To set this up  use 2.4.2 to create a project and save it on
>>>>>>>>>>> your desktop as an AUP project test.aup and
>>>>>>>>>>> similarly use 3.30. RC03 to create a project and save this on
>>>>>>>>>>> your desktop as an AUP3 project test.aup3
>>>>>>>>>>> I made the projects by importing a 3 minute stereo song.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> UC1) D&D AUP onto open 2.4.2
>>>>>>>>>>> a) launch 2.4.2
>>>>>>>>>>> b) try to drag&drop test.aup onto it
>>>>>>>>>>> c) Observe: helpful error message
>>>>>>>>>>> This PO'd Joh (he says) but then it's always been this way
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> UC2) D&D AUP3 onto open 2.4.2
>>>>>>>>>>> a) launch 2.4.2
>>>>>>>>>>> b) try to drag&drop test.aup3 onto it
>>>>>>>>>>> c) Observe: error message saying filetype not recognized
>>>>>>>>>>> That is to be expected as when we built 2.4.2 we had no
>>>>>>>>>>> expectation of AUP3 files and thus
>>>>>>>>>>> no way to trap them.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> UC3) D&D AUP3 onto open  3.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>> a) launch  3.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>> b) try to drag&drop test.aup3 onto it
>>>>>>>>>>> c) Observe: helpful error message telling you to use File>Open
>>>>>>>>>>> Instead
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> UC4) D&D AUP onto open 3.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>> a) launch  3.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>> b) try to drag&drop test.aup onto it
>>>>>>>>>>> c) Observe: the project is imported
>>>>>>>>>>> This is the "Easter Egg" - and is somewhat inconsistent with UC3
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BTW I think this "Easter Egg" occurs because technically Audacity
>>>>>>>>> 3.0.0 is not actually "Opening" an AUP project.
>>>>>>>>> Rater it is "Importing" it and converting it into an AUP3
>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you look carefully at the progress message while this is taking
>>>>>>>>> p;ace you will observe that Audacity is telling you
>>>>>>>>> that it is "Importing AUP Project files..."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So technically this  could be regarded as "pure" and "proper"
>>>>>>>>> behavior.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Peter.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> UC5) D&D onto shortcut items on desktop
>>>>>>>>>>> a) D&D AUP onto 2.4.2 shortcut - it works
>>>>>>>>>>> b) D&D AUP3 onto 3.0.0 shortcut - it works
>>>>>>>>>>> c) D&D AUP onto 3.0.0 shortcut - it works
>>>>>>>>>>> d) D&D AUP3 onto 2.4.2 shortcut => error message
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> UC6) D&D onto ,exe files
>>>>>>>>>>> a) D&D AUP onto Audacity242.exe  - it works
>>>>>>>>>>> b) D&D AUP3 onto  Audacity300.exe - it works
>>>>>>>>>>> c) D&D AUP onto  Audacity300.exe - it works
>>>>>>>>>>> d) D&D AUP3 onto  Audacity242.exe  => error message
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So this looks from these use-case tests to be working as
>>>>>>>>>>> expected.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I do realize that John's project that he wrote about is *much*
>>>>>>>>>>> bigger than my test projects
>>>>>>>>>>> here - so I will try to find time later today to repeat these
>>>>>>>>>>> tests with a pair of 1GB projects.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So I repeated these tests with a one hour stereo wav file of
>>>>>>>>>> music - both AUP3 and AUP c. 1.2GB
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All tests still worked fine.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Peter.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Peter.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - John
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 10:29 AM Peter Sampson <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 3:08 PM Leland <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The packaging/install/cmake issue is still valid, but the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other issue seems to be related to Zam plugins only.  Still researching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I L*O*V*E the Zam VU meter  😎
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zamaudio.com/?p=976
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any chance we could make one of these for Audacity ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Leland <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 24, 2021 8:22 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Audacity-devel] Audacity 3.0.0 RC 003 for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> testing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bummer, I’ve just found a couple of LV2 problems on Linux.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One is simply a packaging/install/cmake issue.  The other one is a hang
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when using (any, I think) LV2 plugins a second time.  Doesn’t have to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same LV2 plugin either, just any LV2 plugin.  At least that’s what it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems like right now.  Just identified and haven’t had a chance to dig
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> further.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* James Crook <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 24, 2021 7:17 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* audacity-devel <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [Audacity-devel] Audacity 3.0.0 RC 003 for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> testing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've addressed bug 2673 and I've spun new release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidates, RC03.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.fosshub.com/Audacity-devel.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please give them a good workout.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --James
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audacity-win-3.0.0rc03.exe    (application/x-msdownload) - 29376712 bytes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SHA-256 c9b98d11b27b60acc54bd637dd057dc8a5cdbdea3e2bb9ac54c6ba026870af49
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audacity-win-3.0.0rc03.zip    (application/x-zip-compressed) - 12507830 bytes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SHA-256 744551b725d9d38aa8a6825231e1ef5a813c8fe034b59fe0b29328b92b40d834
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audacity-man-3.0.0rc03.zip    (application/x-zip-compressed) - 23114150 bytes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SHA-256 e037890b70a556eff533cee9ab0a7bcf07957efba4612801eb8906b3ab99ace0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audacity-macos-3.0.0rc03.dmg        (n/a) - 41327238 bytes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SHA-256 232caec5a8805673c02fd04f812149bf7fe70385e42a4fd662125b424b8aa33c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audacity-minsrc-3.0.0rc03.tar.xz        (n/a) - 13299040 bytes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SHA-256 df18b4bb8811cb042a5223513ce1c07a4162f84ad90e9e9ae2ebf4782d039a8c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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