Re: What should the vocal track look like.

Mentor Services <[email protected]> Wed, 2 Feb 2022 20:50:43 -0700
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I think this will work for you. I always have my main vocal [my voice] set
to hit about MAX about 20% to 25% of the time. I never record on a level
where there are NO peaks.

Then, I will mix in music and/or other sound effects. I will at the end
[final edit] do either of the following:

*OPTION A* ~ NORMALIZE all levels (voice, music, effects, etc.) so they are
on [or near] the SAME LEVELS.

*OPTION B* ~ If "Normalizing" does NOT work, then SET EACH SECTION
[VOICE,MUSIC, EFFECTS]  SEPARATELY so that they are all about the same
level, with 20% to 25% of peaks touching MAX (top line).

I trust this will help you ... try it out and experiment.
Prince Handley

On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 12:28 PM Ivan Bjorkman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Simple rule, keep all signals as big as possible and adjust amplitude in
> your final mix to your requirements. The vocal is originally in analogue
> format and signal to noise ratios need to be high to avoid loss of A/D
> resolution and noise floor levels affecting your quality.   The type look
> you ask for is not important ... just aim for the highest peaks to be near
> clipping only (maximum) at all stages and you're good.
>
> On Wed, 02 Feb 2022, 19:11 Daniel Youmans via Audacity-users, <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I do very simple recording in Audacity. Can someone send me a screen shot
>> of what the vocal should look like. I record all the instruments on one
>> track at the moment and have a pretty good idea of what the track looks
>> like for optimal use, but my vocal track seem to be set right in the
>> monitoring pane, but the result in the track does not have peaks like the
>> instruments and comes out very low volume.
>> *********** ASKING FOR HELP *************
>>
>> When asking for help on this list, please include the following
>> information, so we can
>> help you properly:
>>
>> * What operating system you are using (for example, Windows XP or Mac OS
>> X 10.5.1)
>>
>> * Exactly what three digit version number of Audacity you are using (Help
>> > About
>>    Audacity, or Audacity >  About Audacity on a Mac computer)
>>
>> * If this is a recording problem, what equipment you are recording with,
>> and how is it
>>    connected to the computer?
>>
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>> To UNSUBSCRIBE, use the form at the bottom of this web page:
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>
> *********** ASKING FOR HELP *************
>
> When asking for help on this list, please include the following
> information, so we can
> help you properly:
>
> * What operating system you are using (for example, Windows XP or Mac OS X
> 10.5.1)
>
> * Exactly what three digit version number of Audacity you are using (Help
> > About
>    Audacity, or Audacity >  About Audacity on a Mac computer)
>
> * If this is a recording problem, what equipment you are recording with,
> and how is it
>    connected to the computer?
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><font size=3D"4">I think this will work for you. I al=
ways have my main vocal [my voice] set to hit about MAX about 20% to 25% of=
 the time. I never record on a level where there are NO peaks.</font></div>=
<div><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"4">Then, I will m=
ix in music and/or other sound effects. I will at the end [final edit] do e=
ither of the following:</font></div><div><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div>=
<div style=3D"margin-left:40px"><font size=3D"4"><b>OPTION A</b> ~ NORMALIZ=
E all levels (voice, music, effects, etc.) so they are on [or near] the SAM=
E LEVELS.</font></div><div style=3D"margin-left:40px"><font size=3D"4"><br>=
</font></div><div style=3D"margin-left:40px"><font size=3D"4"><b>OPTION B</=
b> ~ If &quot;Normalizing&quot; does NOT work, then SET EACH SECTION [VOICE=
,MUSIC, EFFECTS]=C2=A0 SEPARATELY so that they are all about the same level=
, with 20% to 25% of peaks touching MAX (top line).</font></div><div><font =
size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"4">I trust this will help yo=
u ... try it out and experiment.<br></font></div><div><font size=3D"4">Prin=
ce Handley</font><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D=
"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 12:28 PM Ivan Bjorkman &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"auto">Simple rule, keep all signals as big as possible and adjust ampli=
tude in your final mix to your requirements. The vocal is originally in ana=
logue format and signal to noise ratios need to be high to avoid loss of A/=
D resolution and noise floor levels affecting your quality.=C2=A0 =C2=A0The=
 type look you ask for is not important ... just aim for the highest peaks =
to be near clipping only (maximum) at all stages and you&#39;re good.=C2=A0=
</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">=
On Wed, 02 Feb 2022, 19:11 Daniel Youmans via Audacity-users, &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">audacity=
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,H=
elvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div dir=3D"ltr">I do very simple=
 recording in Audacity. Can someone send me a screen shot of what the vocal=
 should look like. I record all the instruments on one track at the moment =
and have a pretty good idea of what the track looks like for optimal use, b=
ut my vocal track seem to be set right in the monitoring pane, but the resu=
lt in the track does not have peaks like the instruments and comes out very=
 low volume.<br></div></div></div>*********** ASKING FOR HELP *************=
<br>
<br>
When asking for help on this list, please include the following information=
, so we can<br>
help you properly:<br>
<br>
* What operating system you are using (for example, Windows XP or Mac OS X =
10.5.1)<br>
<br>
* Exactly what three digit version number of Audacity you are using (Help &=
gt; About<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Audacity, or Audacity &gt;=C2=A0 About Audacity on a Mac compu=
ter)<br>
<br>
* If this is a recording problem, what equipment you are recording with, an=
d how is it<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0connected to the computer?<br>
<br>
Mailing list: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><=
br>
To UNSUBSCRIBE, use the form at the bottom of this web page:<br>
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lists/listinfo/audacity-users</a></blockquote></div>
*********** ASKING FOR HELP *************<br>
<br>
When asking for help on this list, please include the following information=
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* What operating system you are using (for example, Windows XP or Mac OS X =
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<br>
* Exactly what three digit version number of Audacity you are using (Help &=
gt; About<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Audacity, or Audacity &gt;=C2=A0 About Audacity on a Mac compu=
ter)<br>
<br>
* If this is a recording problem, what equipment you are recording with, an=
d how is it<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0connected to the computer?<br>
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*********** ASKING FOR HELP *************

When asking for help on this list, please include the following information, so we can
help you properly:

* What operating system you are using (for example, Windows XP or Mac OS X 10.5.1)

* Exactly what three digit version number of Audacity you are using (Help > About
   Audacity, or Audacity >  About Audacity on a Mac computer)

* If this is a recording problem, what equipment you are recording with, and how is it
   connected to the computer?

Mailing list: [email protected]
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