RE: old burned cd file in wav

I rip CDs to FLAC and Ogg.  The Ogg compressor I use does not support tags so I need to tag the files after compression and I use mp3tag to do this.  I assume it recognizes the file format and correctly tags (comments) the files as per the specification.  If I were to mistakenly add ID3 tags to a FLAC or Ogg file how could I determine that both sets of tags were written?

 

Mike

 

 

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 7:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EAC] old burned cd file in wav

 

  

Looking back at the thread, Fred wrote, "The web is filled with people complaining about ID3 tags in FLAC files, including those added as a default by EAC: https://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30377"  That mediamonkey forum page is from 2008, and even there they say that you have to configure EAC "incorrectly" to get ID3 tags in FLAC files.

 

The last few copies/versions of EAC that I've installed have been configured to create FLAC files by using the wizard that EAC runs on first setup. I let it do whatever it does by default, and as a result my copy of EAC does NOT, and has not for at least the last ten years, added ID3 tags "by default". It simply runs the FLAC.exe encoder, passes it the appropriate information, and lets it create FLAC tags. I've checked, using mp3tag: there are only FLAC tags in my FLAC files. So my comment about not having ID3 tags "by default", in response to Fred's reference to an old mediamonkey forum posting, was that *I* didn't do anything that would force it to do the wrong thing -- a stupid thing, IMHO -- and as a result EAC does only the right thing..

 

Perhaps checking the "Add ID3 tags" box would force it to add ID3 tags. I don't know. That box should be checked only if you're using an MP3 encoder, not a FLAC encoder, and if you let EAC configure itself using its wizard, it does the right thing either way -- "by default".

 

Andre is a smart person. Use his program(s) the way he wrote them and they usually work the way they should. -- m.

 

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 6:32 PM 'M' [email protected] [EAC] <[email protected]> wrote:

  

Thanks Mark,

 

I guess I am getting confused as to who said what.  What did you mean by the comment, “My copy of EAC (and Easy AC) doesn't add ID3 tags to FLAC files, because I didn't tell it to do such a stupid thing”.  How would you tell EAC to add ID3 comments given your confirmation that it doesn’t control that?

 

Mike

 

 

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EAC] old burned cd file in wav

 

  

No, your second statement is correct: the flac.exe (or flac.dll, it's been so long that I forget which is used) writes FLAC tags, and that's all. EAC doesn't try to meddle with that. I didn't uncheck anything, that was the default: if you're making FLAC files, EAC will create them with only FLAC tags.

 

-- m.

 

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 5:45 PM 'M' [email protected] [EAC] <[email protected]> wrote:

  

Thanks Fred,

 

Here is my confusion.  I am assuming from your comment “My copy of EAC (and Easy AC) doesn't add ID3 tags to FLAC files, because I didn't tell it to do such a stupid thing” means you uncheck the box in the config window to add ID3 tags.  But what I don’t understand is why that should be an issue.  EAC uses the FLAC.exe compression engine to compress the files and passes along the tags from the main window based on the additional command line options.  This matches up the data from EAC to the vorbis comments.  How would ID3 tags get written and why would they be written elsewhere than to vorbis comments.  Isn’t this controlled by flac.exe and wouldn’t it ignore ID3 data?

 

Mike

  

 




 

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