Re: Feature Request JAMin

"Patrick Shirkey" <[email protected]> Mon, 4 Feb 2013 14:29:08 +1100 (EST)
Newsgroups gmane.comp.audio.jamin.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Mon, February 4, 2013 8:19 am, John Rigg wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 06:38:17AM +1100, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, February 4, 2013 3:55 am, John Rigg wrote:
>> > Personally I would hesitate to use JAMin for live sound as it has
>> quite
>> > a lot of latency - certainly enough to cause problems for performers
>> if
>> > used on monitor sends, and possibly also enough to cause phase
>> problems
>> > between direct sound from the stage and the PA speakers.
>> >
>>
>> I guess the question is what kind of live performance use is the
>> intention?
>>
>> It's also possible to use Jamin as an fx box instead of a mastering
>> tool...
>>
>> IIRC internal latency is about as good as it gets but maybe there are
>> improvements or tradeoffs that could be added for live use?
>
> I haven't measured the latency, but operating the bypass button does
> make the timing jump by enough to make me think it could be a problem for
> live musicians. Anything much over 10ms total can cause timing problems
> for some musicians. That's about the time it takes sound to travel 10
> feet,
> which might appear insignificant, but I do know musicians for whom this
> could be an issue. Increase that to 20ms total and it's potentially a
> problem for just about any musician trying to play in time with others on
> a small stage. That much delay between back line sound and PA speakers
> could also be quite noticeable.
>
> Without measurements this is all conjecture of course. If I get time I'll
> try to do some tests.
>
> There's nothing unreasonable about the OP's feature request BTW. It could
> be useful in situations where latency isn't a problem, like playing
> pre-recorded music, but that isn't what I usually think of as live
> sound ;-)
>

I guess we could do a pre and post compressor output option. It's just a
case of hooking up a couple more jack outputs to the signal chain.

I can see tow options for enabling it in the interface:

1: Add 12 new jack outputs for pre and post
2: Add 6 new outputs for pre and post and provide a "pre/post" aux/send
toggle.

We could also add volumen sliders for the output on each send so that
would probably require a secondary window or a panel that could be hidden
and slide in/out if in use.

Any thoughts on UI functionality?

I might have some time to add this over the next month.



--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd

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