Re: Feature Request JAMin

"Patrick Shirkey" <[email protected]> Wed, 6 Feb 2013 07:45:36 +1100 (EST)
Newsgroups gmane.comp.audio.jamin.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Wed, February 6, 2013 4:46 am, David Nielson wrote:
>  >> On 02/05/2013 10:07 AM, Michiel Broek wrote:
>  > David,
>  >
>  > Hardware units can run in a  two band mode, then two outputs are just
>  > not used. In Jamint it can be easier, delete two outputs and have only
>  > one crossover frequency. Or add two outputs and have a stereo 4 band
>  > crossover.
>
> Yes. What I'm saying is that Jamin doesn't need to handle it *at all*.
> Just set the number of bands to as many as you think you might need; if
> a user needs fewer bands, connect the different outputs to the same
> output ports in JACK. JACK combines them, and you effectively have a
> smaller number of bands.
>
> (With the advantage that you could have different settings for different
> 'sub-bands'. Your crossover could also act as a de-esser, for example.)
>

Your suggestion builds on the 3 band output extension by adding multiple
band outputs. I'm happy to look into this once I have the three bands
working.

I suppose it is just a case of adding additional sliders for each band and
giving them their own compressor+delay+limiter+volume control? Do we need
to have some kind of sane limit to the number of bands in the xover?

For the UI we can add an extra panel to the master window and extend the
total height or we can add a tabbed panel to each compressor to display
the delay+limiter+volume+jack output.

Finally for this use case we also can sum the output to a master stereo
out at the end of the process for extra i/o goodness.

In the case of 3 xover bands we will end up with a total of 3 x stereo
channels low/mid/high and 1 x master stereo channel.



> On 02/05/2013 10:55 AM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>> That provides a decent amount of flexibility but limits us to a maximum
>> of
>> 3 stereo channels of output.
>>
>> To give us more channels we would need to add support for more
>> compressor
>> chains. I'm not sure how the xover would be affected by having more than
>> 3
>> output paths. What is the general method for dealing with that case?
>
>> We can add an input delay but currently we only have stereo inputs. Is
>> there a need for more?
>
> Need? No; IMO it should be on a 'roadmap', if there is one. It should be
> lower-priority than providing per-compressor outputs. (Again IMO.)
>
>> Than is easy enough to add. We already have three modes:
>>
>> Classic
>> Presets
>> Daemon
>>
>> It is entirely reasonable to add a few more like:
>>
>> Quad output
>> Live - 6 channel
>> 5.1 - surround
>> 5.1 + 2 - surround
>> 5.1 + 2  over stereo - "Dolby E" broadcast format
>> Ambisonic output
>
> These options are orthogonal to each other. A mastering engineer, live
> engineer, or desktop user with a DIY 5.1 system (and too much time on
> their hands) might want to use any of the three 'modes' with any of
> those channel combinations / arrangements.
>
> David
>
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