Re: Feature Request JAMin

Hi Patrick,

On 02/06/2013 01:35 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> On Wed, February 6, 2013 8:12 pm, Michiel Broek wrote:
>> On 02/06/2013 05:42 AM, David Nielson wrote:
>>> On 02/05/2013 04:58 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>>>> On Wed, February 6, 2013 8:35 am, David Nielson wrote:
>>>>> On 02/05/2013 02:32 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>>>>>> I'm thinking of the best way to handle that in the UI. We could add a
>>>>>> "tabbed" view to each compressor to display the delay control,
>>>>>> limiter
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> volume for each band by making the "delay" label clickable. Other
>>>>>> suggestions welcome.
>>>>> Sounds ideal to me. Though if you put them in tabs, you could make all
>>>>> the controls available all the time, so long as the right tab is
>>>>> selected.
>>>>>
>>>>>     > I suppose it is just a case of adding additional sliders for each
>>>>>     > band and giving them their own compressor+delay+limiter+volume
>>>>>     > control? Do we need to have some kind of sane limit to the number
>>>>> of
>>>>>     > bands in the xover?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I believe you're right.
>>>>>
>>>>> We've got two people suggesting 8... *I* can't imagine needing more
>>>>> than
>>>>> 8 bands, but I hate to be Bill Gates saying 640k ought to be enough
>>>>> for
>>>>> anybody ;-)
>>>>>
>>>> Just to confirm, by 8 band we are talking about 4 x stereo so we would
>>>> have 4 compressors instead of three.
>>> Hmm, I'm not sure what the other fellow meant, but I meant 8 compressors
>>> for a grand total of 16 outputs under stereo operation.
>>>
>>>> Would we need more xover bands if we gave the option to increase the
>>>> number of EQ bands from 1024 upto 16384? Looking at the code it should
>>>> be
>>>> fine to do that as long as the total is a power of 2 and more than 32.
>>> 16384-band EQ... can you imagine the things you could do...
>>>
>>> David
>>>
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>> Hi David and Patrick,
>>
>>
>> I think we have all different ideas how this would look like. My idea
>> was this:
>>
>> Take the original Jamin without any significant changes. Behind the
>> stereo outputs comes a new (second) crossover, that should be selectable
>> in 2 to 8 bands. Personally 8 is too much, but I see people want it so
>> let's make it 8. That means 8 x 2 outputs.
> Ok, I'm seeing the functionality now. Thanks for explaining so concisely.
No problem.
>> Between the output of that second crossover and real jack output there
>> should be a level control, a 0 to 10 mSec delay and a hard limiter. That
>> limiter would be synced between left/right on the same band but not
>> linked with the other bands. The limiter should have a bypass and
>> threshold. There is no compressor needed in the last stage, dynamics
>> should be done at the beginning in the original Jamin part.
>> Ah, and a level meter on the output.
>>
>> Should the whole thing be able to do 5 or 7 channels audio? Movie makers
>> may want that.
>>
>> The crossover frequencies in the original part with compressors that
>> form the original Mastering thing should stay as it is. Maybe an option
>> to make it more then three bands as we now have.
>>
> So we are basically looking at a whole new lower panel for the "live"
> system compared to the "classic" mode.
>
Yes it does.


>> The crossover frequencies on the second (new) stage are defined by the
>> speaker systems that the new stereo outputs are driving.
>>
>> If you think about all this, it could be a pluggable design. The user
>> designs what goes in the signal path and where.
>>
>> I also see a lot of problems here in the UI design and remote control,
>> but that should be solvable somehow.
>>
> It's not too bad actually.  Just time and testing. From the backend
> perspective we are pretty close already.
>
I guess that most modules are already written, it looks like just adding 
these parts.

I hope this is also what Florian Kraxberger was looking for.

gtx, Michiel.


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