Re: Feature Request JAMin

On Wed, February 6, 2013 8:12 pm, Michiel Broek wrote:
> On 02/06/2013 05:42 AM, David Nielson wrote:
>> On 02/05/2013 04:58 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>>> On Wed, February 6, 2013 8:35 am, David Nielson wrote:
>>>> On 02/05/2013 02:32 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>>>>> I'm thinking of the best way to handle that in the UI. We could add a
>>>>> "tabbed" view to each compressor to display the delay control,
>>>>> limiter
>>>>> and
>>>>> volume for each band by making the "delay" label clickable. Other
>>>>> suggestions welcome.
>>>> Sounds ideal to me. Though if you put them in tabs, you could make all
>>>> the controls available all the time, so long as the right tab is
>>>> selected.
>>>>
>>>>    > I suppose it is just a case of adding additional sliders for each
>>>>    > band and giving them their own compressor+delay+limiter+volume
>>>>    > control? Do we need to have some kind of sane limit to the number
>>>> of
>>>>    > bands in the xover?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I believe you're right.
>>>>
>>>> We've got two people suggesting 8... *I* can't imagine needing more
>>>> than
>>>> 8 bands, but I hate to be Bill Gates saying 640k ought to be enough
>>>> for
>>>> anybody ;-)
>>>>
>>> Just to confirm, by 8 band we are talking about 4 x stereo so we would
>>> have 4 compressors instead of three.
>> Hmm, I'm not sure what the other fellow meant, but I meant 8 compressors
>> for a grand total of 16 outputs under stereo operation.
>>
>>> Would we need more xover bands if we gave the option to increase the
>>> number of EQ bands from 1024 upto 16384? Looking at the code it should
>>> be
>>> fine to do that as long as the total is a power of 2 and more than 32.
>> 16384-band EQ... can you imagine the things you could do...
>>
>> David
>>
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>
> Hi David and Patrick,
>
>
> I think we have all different ideas how this would look like. My idea
> was this:
>
> Take the original Jamin without any significant changes. Behind the
> stereo outputs comes a new (second) crossover, that should be selectable
> in 2 to 8 bands. Personally 8 is too much, but I see people want it so
> let's make it 8. That means 8 x 2 outputs.

Ok, I'm seeing the functionality now. Thanks for explaining so concisely.

> Between the output of that second crossover and real jack output there
> should be a level control, a 0 to 10 mSec delay and a hard limiter. That
> limiter would be synced between left/right on the same band but not
> linked with the other bands. The limiter should have a bypass and
> threshold. There is no compressor needed in the last stage, dynamics
> should be done at the beginning in the original Jamin part.
> Ah, and a level meter on the output.
>
> Should the whole thing be able to do 5 or 7 channels audio? Movie makers
> may want that.
>
> The crossover frequencies in the original part with compressors that
> form the original Mastering thing should stay as it is. Maybe an option
> to make it more then three bands as we now have.
>

So we are basically looking at a whole new lower panel for the "live"
system compared to the "classic" mode.

> The crossover frequencies on the second (new) stage are defined by the
> speaker systems that the new stereo outputs are driving.
>
> If you think about all this, it could be a pluggable design. The user
> designs what goes in the signal path and where.
>
> I also see a lot of problems here in the UI design and remote control,
> but that should be solvable somehow.
>

It's not too bad actually.  Just time and testing. From the backend
perspective we are pretty close already.




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