Re: [mb-users] Artist vs. Artist and His Orchestra

I agree that this type of artist is a problem; I've seen some people doing
it this way, but that's not felt right to me.  I've also seen people
suggesting a "His Orchestra" artist, but that I also don't like.

Done this way, it makes it impossible to AR things like the members of the
orchestra; you'd have to set those ARs to "Artist", and that just seems
wrong.  The second idea also doesn't work for me - you end up with
hundreds, or thousands, of identically named "His Choir", "His Orchestra",
etc. artists.  Plus, those are all bogus; there is no artist named "His
Orchestra" in that case; we'd just be using it as a convenience.

I do think these need some sort of handling; I just don't think that any of
the current solutions address it properly.  I have a collection of these
that I've found, plus other 'looks like a collab, but isn't', artists
tagged at http://musicbrainz.org/tag/do%20not%20split/artist

Brian



On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Mister Maxis <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I'm really concerned about the following kind of edit (
> http://musicbrainz.org/edit/17920887 &
> http://musicbrainz.org/edit/18497710 ), especially when done and/or voted
> by Auto-Editors, I have recently seen it twice and I remember seing it
> before.
>
> By doing so, it basically deletes the artist named "Artist and His
> Orchestra" making impossible to add
> http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Member_of_Band_Relationship_Type
> http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Orchestra_Relationship_Type
> and probably others...
>
> "Percy Faith" is an artist of type "Person" =1 human being
> and
> "Percy Faith and His Orchestra" was an artist of type "Group" >1 human
> being
> This is the very basic of MusicBrainz and merging one with the other has
> as much sense as merging all the artists into Various Artists.
>
> So either it's legit to do such merge and I would like to see the
> guidelines where it's mentioned and why,
> or please vote No to those edits when seing them, don't Abstain we're
> losing information with those edits.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Is it possible to unmerge ?
>
> Best regards,
> -MXS-
>
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