Re: [mb-users] Artist vs. Artist and His Orchestra

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Brian Schweitzer <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I agree that this type of artist is a problem; I've seen some people doing
> it this way, but that's not felt right to me.  I've also seen people
> suggesting a "His Orchestra" artist, but that I also don't like.
>
> Done this way, it makes it impossible to AR things like the members of the
> orchestra; you'd have to set those ARs to "Artist", and that just seems
> wrong.  The second idea also doesn't work for me - you end up with
> hundreds, or thousands, of identically named "His Choir", "His Orchestra",
> etc. artists.  Plus, those are all bogus; there is no artist named "His
> Orchestra" in that case; we'd just be using it as a convenience.
>

I'm not going to comment on the actual matter because I really don't have
an opinion here, but I assume the proposed artist names would be more like
"X's Orchestra" credited as "His Orchestra".

>
> I do think these need some sort of handling; I just don't think that any
> of the current solutions address it properly.  I have a collection of these
> that I've found, plus other 'looks like a collab, but isn't', artists
> tagged at http://musicbrainz.org/tag/do%20not%20split/artist
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Mister Maxis <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I'm really concerned about the following kind of edit (
>> http://musicbrainz.org/edit/17920887 &
>> http://musicbrainz.org/edit/18497710 ), especially when done and/or
>> voted by Auto-Editors, I have recently seen it twice and I remember seing
>> it before.
>>
>> By doing so, it basically deletes the artist named "Artist and His
>> Orchestra" making impossible to add
>> http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Member_of_Band_Relationship_Type
>> http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Orchestra_Relationship_Type
>> and probably others...
>>
>> "Percy Faith" is an artist of type "Person" =1 human being
>> and
>> "Percy Faith and His Orchestra" was an artist of type "Group" >1 human
>> being
>> This is the very basic of MusicBrainz and merging one with the other has
>> as much sense as merging all the artists into Various Artists.
>>
>> So either it's legit to do such merge and I would like to see the
>> guidelines where it's mentioned and why,
>> or please vote No to those edits when seing them, don't Abstain we're
>> losing information with those edits.
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Is it possible to unmerge ?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> -MXS-
>>
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