Re: [mb-users] Artist vs. Artist and His Orchestra

>
> > This is a very interesting topic. While I understand your concerns, it
> > does
> > not make sense either to not be able to find a release by "Percy Faith
> > and
> > His Orchestra" in the "Percy Faith" entry. Imagine a compilation by Percy
> > Faith. Now, a few tracks on this release, are credited as they should be,
> > by Percy Faith and His Orchestra. Those associated recording won't even
> > appear on the Percy Faith's recording tab. That's so wrong, IMO.
>
> that's my thought too.
>
> also "artistX + orchester performed orchester" is as wrong as "artistX
> performed orchester"
> i don't see how one of these should be more correct.
>
> imho merging is the most feasible solution without getting too complicated.
>
>
Merging wouldn't solve the problem you're describing, however, and it would
create such problems as I mentioned, such as "(person) Artist is a member
of (person) Artist", rather than the current "(person) Artist is a member
of (group) Artist".  A musician in Percy Faith's orchestra is a member of
the orchestra, not a member of Percy Faith.  This is not the only AR with
such problems, either, nor are all such problems limited to artist-artist
ARs.  You'd also lose the ability to set non-AR data, such as when the
group formed/ended, to set an AC for the group (vs the person), etc.  So
merging would solve perhaps some problems, while creating a whole host of
other, messier imho, problems.

Re "not make sense either to not be able to find a release by "Percy
Faith and His Orchestra" in the "Percy Faith" entry", while yes, it'd be
nice to see *everything* Percy did in his discography, that wouldn't be
true even if the two were merged.  See, for example, performance names, or
the member of AR for members of orchestras/groups.  For example, you won't
see any Nirvana stuff under Kurt Cobain, even though he was in that group.
 Given many of the examples visible at the tag I linked before, there's
cases where "Foo Bar & the GroupType" is the actual name of the band;
merging those into "Foo Bar" would commingle the group with the person.  In
many other cases, esp in a jazz context, merging like this would make
distinguishing different 'semi-ad-hoc, but stable for a decent amount of
time' groups pretty much impossible, esp. once you consider the resulting
lack of membership AR data.  Consider the 16 or so entries for Miles Davis.
 They're hard enough to distinguish as they are now; merge them all into
Miles Davis' listing - result: they, and his listing as a person, would
just become a giant mess.

Brian

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