Re: [mb-users] Are different digital downloads different releases?

Andrew Conkling <[email protected]>
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I think the idea is that the files can come in a variety of ways, but
always from the same source material (a CD). That's probably analogous to
digital downloads, but since people are getting them directly from a "mass"
source, it's less clear what to do with any variety.

I tend to agree with Davi also: the variation you find between sources is
generally pretty minimal and allows for variation: my ripped CDs—not
torrents!—often vary from the CD track times, which vary from what's listed
on the back cover, and that's never been a problem; we allow uploading of
multiple versions of cover art; and multiple formats doesn't really matter
for the sake of variety (I get music from Bandcamp which allows me to
choose my format, but they all match via AcoustID).

I think there's value in capturing this data, but I agree that it could be
a relationship and not duplicated recording/release data (unless there's a
difference in the release, e.g. "iTunes exclusive bonus tracks" or
whatever).


On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:05 PM, RocknRollArchivist <
[email protected]> wrote:

> MeinDummy wrote
> > [...]
> > Another reason is that we all probably get the same types of differences
> > in our CD-based music collections. Everyone rips their own CDs with
> > different encoder settings, gets cover art from his preferred sites and
> > names the files according to his own file naming scheme. And all those
> > different local versions are (of course) represented in MB by the same CD
> > release.
> > [...]
> > Christian (MD)
>
> Completely disagree with this reasoning:
> 1) What is the relation with a rips? We store in MB a CDs as a set of
> recordings with duration and title only, and not as a rips. MB is not a
> torrent tracker, please do not mismatch them. Generally we add a CD by
> means
> of Picard, when the CD is putted in drive. No rip here, a TOC only. And
> even
> someone add a CD by means of files grabbed from a CD, the tracks' durations
> from same release still same, independently of grabbing software and its
> settings. (What encoder you mean?)
> 2) About covers. The presence or absence of covers has never an influence
> upon the identification of a CD release.
> 3) I'm truly amazing to read your words "Everyone [...] names the files
> according to his own file naming scheme". Again, it's not a torrent tracker
> here. IMO, the recordings of each release should be named exactly as on
> release according to http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Titles, and not
> according to someone's "naming scheme".
>
>
>
>
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