Re: Re: [Netjuke-devel] Netjuke 1.0b18-pre1 Released

Hi Al -

Some very good points here. I'll address them one at a time:
On Thu, 1 May 2003 14:09:50 -0500
Alton_Brown/[email protected] wrote:

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> I updated my site last night to the 1.0b18pre1.
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> Very Nice! Thank you!
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> The update went on without a hitch.  Well done!
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Excellent. I made a number of changes to the installer/upgrader to make it easier for some of the less tech saavy users. Glad to see nobody is having trouble with the changes so far.

> The themes and the and all the work for a better look are very successful.
> Nice work!
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> I am seeing a few small things:
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> One thing worth mentioning is that after playing around for a bit I ran the
> database maintainer.  It ran for a long time, you might want to warn people
> that the first run of the maintainer will be a long one and what it might
> do in the release readme.  It appears to have reread all of the mp3s and
> updated their info in the database when the id3 didn't match the id3 in the
> mp3.  This re-syncing (I see it as a good thing) of course resulted in
> putting some of the origional garbage that I had edited out back in. I
> turned on the editing / updating and have started working on changing
> things back and this time the files will stay in sync with the database.

This is documented in the DEVELOPMENT_CHANGES.txt doc, but I neglected to mention it in the release notes. My current plan is to make the installer either redirect you to the maintain tool, or automatically run it for you on upgrade. Or I could have it add all the current modification times to the db, so it will only pick up changes going forward. Something to think about...

> The updating on a Win2k server is working well.
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Excellent. Works for me on XP.

> On search results pages listing tracts in the "SPECIAL ADMINISTRATOR AND
> EDITOR TOOLS" there is a block to the right of "Batch Organize" that
> contains a cryptic "Dateipfade aneigen"  What is that?
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Accidental German string that made it into CVS. I've already fixed it.

> If I edit (or batch edit) and then browse the changes I've made on aren't
> reflected in the data in the tables (even if I refresh) until I close the
> browser and then reopen it. If I remove all of the tracks from a genere and
> click on a genere then it shows empty but the gener still shows on the
> browse page until I close the browser and then reopen.
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Hmmm, that sounds like a caching issue with your browser. Netjuke builds the pages entirely from the DB, so if the changes were made and you do a non-caching refresh it should show it. Try shift clicking the Refresh button.
 
> I haven't started working with the sub-generes yet I was hoping you could
> explaing a bit more about setting this up and what the "Generate
> Subgeneres" under Database Maintainence will actually do.
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Sub-genres are very easy to create via the group editor. Click the edit button next to any genre and select a parent genre for it -- Netjuke will show them when in explore view (switching to browse view will flatten the genres back out).

The Generate Sub-genres tool automates the creation of sub-genres by updating the database according to a text file. Each tab depth signifies another level of sub-genre. Basically, you can either make them by hand or edit the text file and then let Netjuke make them all for you at once.

> One other thing that I would ask is for an explaination of what "Organize"
> accomplishes or is supposed to do.  Why would I want to do this and what is
> it doing or supposed to do.  This info would be very useful in the docs.
> If I missed it please tell me what to go read.
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Basically, Organize allows you to automate the organization of your mp3's on the disk (filesystem level). Imagine that you have 20000 mp3's with valid ID3 information, but they're all in one folder. With organize, you can specify a structure that suits you and Netjuke will move the mp3's for you to match that structure (i.e. Artist/Album/Track num - name.extension or Genre/Artist/Album), while _preserving_ the track ID's and metadata (so playlists don't get clobbered). 

I'm going to be working on a new website and docs for the whole of Netjuke over this pre-release period of testing/translating. Something definitely needs to be done, but I like to spend my time coding and not documenting :(

> I do have more testing to do but so far WOW!
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;)
 
> BTW, If there are any words to the wise about configuring "batch
> downloading" (on WIN2k, using info-zip packages ) I'm all ears/eyes. :-))

Install a cygwin binary or some other commandline version of GNU zip. Here's a good place to look : http://www.gzip.org/#exe

Thanks,
Blake

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> Al Brown
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