Re: Big Sur warnings
[email protected] Thu, 1 Oct 2020 11:22:35 -0700
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--00000000000055c16a05b0a01a34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FWIW when I download the dev build I get the message "=E2=80=9CSuperCollide= r=E2=80=9D is damaged and can=E2=80=99t be opened.". However, if I navigate in the packag= e contents, I can start SC. (I'm on 10.13) I thought that the dev issue was due to in issue with QT 5.15.1, but that's been fixed in https://github.com/supercollider/supercollider/pull/5178 Marcin On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 9:30 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > Scott - > The developer build downloads as a Zero KB executable for me - can you se= e > if you see that as well? > > Josh > > > On Sep 30, 2020, at 05:26, scott-y6qSm6YX8/[email protected] wrote: > > Current develop builds > <http://supercollider.s3.amazonaws.com/builds/supercollider/supercollider= /osx/develop-latest.html> > work (apart from notarization issues) on the Big Sur drop from a week or > two ago. > > Big Sur support issues that I forsee: > > - [critical] Supernova needs to switch it's realtime thread setup to use > audio workgroups rather than manually scheduling threads via the lower > level API's it's using now. This is likely a small engineering change, bu= t > will require some pretty extensive testing ... and god forbid we find a > problem / performance regression.... Without this change, Supernova may > have some degraded performance, or may simply not work. > > - [minor] Audio Units v2 support on Big Sur has seen some substantial > changes (all AU plugins are now run out-of-process, and the thread callin= g > semantics have changed significantly). SuperColliderAU will need to be > tested pretty extensively, and may need some changes - though we may be i= n > the clear since we're engine-only and don't implement any proper UI. > > - [cosmetic] We list QT >=3D 5.11 as a minimum requirement. No Big Sur fi= xes > will be backported to 5.11, so we'll have to bump to at least 5.12. Big S= ur > backports *seem* to be a guaranteed part of 5.12 LTS, but it's still wort= h > testing 5.12 to see if it is, in fact, fully supporting Big Sur. > > Due to some of the Audio Units changes, I predict that Big Sur will have = a > VERY long tail of work required by audio apps in general. Even more than > usual, I think audio users will be staying on Catalina for a long time - = so > very possibly SC could actually come out ahead of the curve here. > > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 2:44 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 8:28 AM <[email protected]> wrote: >> > It did - I sent to both. >> >> That's good -- I saw only one (with [sc-dev] in the header) and >> wondered about it. >> >> hjh >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sc-dev mailing list >> >> info (subscription, etc.): >> http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/facilities/ea-studios/research/supercollider= /mailinglist.aspx >> archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-dev/ >> search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-dev/search/ >> > > --00000000000055c16a05b0a01a34 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">FWIW when I download the dev build I get the message "= ;=E2=80=9CSuperCollider=E2=80=9D is damaged and can=E2=80=99t be opened.&qu= ot;. However, if I navigate=C2=A0in the package contents, I can start SC. (= I'm on 10.13)<div>I thought that the dev issue was due to in issue with= QT 5.15.1, but that's been fixed in=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://github.com= /supercollider/supercollider/pull/5178">https://github.com/supercollider/su= percollider/pull/5178</a></div><div>Marcin</div></div><br><div class=3D"gma= il_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 9:30= AM <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a= >> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px= 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><di= v style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">Scott -=C2=A0<div>The developer buil= d downloads as a Zero KB executable for me - can you see if you see that as= well?</div><div><br></div><div>Josh</div><div><br><div><br><blockquote typ= e=3D"cite"><div>On Sep 30, 2020, at 05:26, <a href=3D"mailto:scott@artifici= a.org" target=3D"_blank">scott-y6qSm6YX8/[email protected]</a> wrote:</div><br><div><div = dir=3D"ltr"><div>Current <a href=3D"http://supercollider.s3.amazonaws.com/b= uilds/supercollider/supercollider/osx/develop-latest.html" target=3D"_blank= ">develop builds</a> work (apart from notarization issues)=C2=A0on the=C2= =A0Big Sur drop from a week or two ago.</div><div><br></div><div>Big Sur su= pport issues that I forsee:</div><div><br></div><div>- [critical] Supernova= needs to switch it's realtime thread setup to use audio workgroups rat= her than manually scheduling threads via the lower level API's it's= using now. This is likely a small engineering change, but will require som= e pretty extensive testing ... and god forbid we find a problem / performan= ce regression.... Without this change, Supernova may have some degraded per= formance, or may simply not work.</div><div><br></div><div>- [minor] Audio = Units v2 support on Big Sur has seen some substantial changes (all AU plugi= ns are now run out-of-process, and the thread calling semantics have change= d significantly). SuperColliderAU will need to be tested pretty extensively= , and may need some changes - though we may be in the clear since we're= engine-only and don't implement any proper UI.</div><div><br></div><di= v>- [cosmetic] We list QT >=3D 5.11 as a minimum requirement. No Big Sur= fixes will be backported to 5.11, so we'll have to bump to at least 5.= 12. Big Sur backports *seem* to be a guaranteed part of 5.12 LTS, but it= 9;s still worth testing 5.12 to see if it is, in fact, fully supporting Big= Sur.</div><div><br></div><div>Due to some of the Audio Units changes, I pr= edict that Big Sur will have a VERY long tail of work required by audio app= s in general. Even more than usual, I think audio users will be staying=C2= =A0on Catalina for a long time - so very possibly SC could actually come ou= t ahead of the curve here.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmai= l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 2:44= AM <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">jamshark7= [email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style= =3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding= -left:1ex">On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 8:28 AM <<a href=3D"mailto:josh@reali= zedsound.net" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> > It did - I sent to both.<br> <br> That's good -- I saw only one (with [sc-dev] in the header) and<br> wondered about it.<br> <br> hjh<br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> sc-dev mailing list<br> <br> info (subscription, etc.): <a href=3D"http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/facilitie= s/ea-studios/research/supercollider/mailinglist.aspx" rel=3D"noreferrer" ta= rget=3D"_blank">http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/facilities/ea-studios/research/= supercollider/mailinglist.aspx</a><br> archive: <a href=3D"http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-dev/" rel=3D= "noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-d= ev/</a><br> search: <a href=3D"http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-dev/search/" rel= =3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-de= v/search/</a><br> </blockquote></div> </div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div> --00000000000055c16a05b0a01a34-- _______________________________________________ sc-dev mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/facilities/ea-studios/research/supercollider/mailinglist.aspx archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-dev/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-dev/search/