Re: Big Sur warnings
[email protected] Thu, 1 Oct 2020 11:24:22 -0700
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--000000000000aa97b505b0a0204f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Actually, I can't start the IDE... I can start the lang itself though. On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 11:22 AM Marcin P=C4=85czkowski <[email protected]> w= rote: > FWIW when I download the dev build I get the message "=E2=80=9CSuperColli= der=E2=80=9D is > damaged and can=E2=80=99t be opened.". However, if I navigate in the pack= age > contents, I can start SC. (I'm on 10.13) > I thought that the dev issue was due to in issue with QT 5.15.1, but > that's been fixed in > https://github.com/supercollider/supercollider/pull/5178 > Marcin > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 9:30 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Scott - >> The developer build downloads as a Zero KB executable for me - can you >> see if you see that as well? >> >> Josh >> >> >> On Sep 30, 2020, at 05:26, scott-y6qSm6YX8/[email protected] wrote: >> >> Current develop builds >> <http://supercollider.s3.amazonaws.com/builds/supercollider/supercollide= r/osx/develop-latest.html> >> work (apart from notarization issues) on the Big Sur drop from a week or >> two ago. >> >> Big Sur support issues that I forsee: >> >> - [critical] Supernova needs to switch it's realtime thread setup to use >> audio workgroups rather than manually scheduling threads via the lower >> level API's it's using now. This is likely a small engineering change, b= ut >> will require some pretty extensive testing ... and god forbid we find a >> problem / performance regression.... Without this change, Supernova may >> have some degraded performance, or may simply not work. >> >> - [minor] Audio Units v2 support on Big Sur has seen some substantial >> changes (all AU plugins are now run out-of-process, and the thread calli= ng >> semantics have changed significantly). SuperColliderAU will need to be >> tested pretty extensively, and may need some changes - though we may be = in >> the clear since we're engine-only and don't implement any proper UI. >> >> - [cosmetic] We list QT >=3D 5.11 as a minimum requirement. No Big Sur >> fixes will be backported to 5.11, so we'll have to bump to at least 5.12= . >> Big Sur backports *seem* to be a guaranteed part of 5.12 LTS, but it's >> still worth testing 5.12 to see if it is, in fact, fully supporting Big = Sur. >> >> Due to some of the Audio Units changes, I predict that Big Sur will have >> a VERY long tail of work required by audio apps in general. Even more th= an >> usual, I think audio users will be staying on Catalina for a long time -= so >> very possibly SC could actually come out ahead of the curve here. >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 2:44 AM <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 8:28 AM <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > It did - I sent to both. >>> >>> That's good -- I saw only one (with [sc-dev] in the header) and >>> wondered about it. >>> >>> hjh >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sc-dev mailing list >>> >>> info (subscription, etc.): >>> http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/facilities/ea-studios/research/supercollide= r/mailinglist.aspx >>> archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-dev/ >>> search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-dev/search/ >>> >> >> --000000000000aa97b505b0a0204f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Actually, I can't start the IDE... I can start the lan= g itself though.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class= =3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 11:22 AM Marcin P=C4=85czkowski <= <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></di= v><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;borde= r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">FWIW w= hen I download the dev build I get the message "=E2=80=9CSuperCollider= =E2=80=9D is damaged and can=E2=80=99t be opened.". However, if I navi= gate=C2=A0in the package contents, I can start SC. (I'm on 10.13)<div>I= thought that the dev issue was due to in issue with QT 5.15.1, but that= 9;s been fixed in=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://github.com/supercollider/supercol= lider/pull/5178" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/supercollider/superco= llider/pull/5178</a></div><div>Marcin</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu= ote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 9:30 AM &= lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">josh@realize= dsound.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style= =3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding= -left:1ex"><div>Scott -=C2=A0<div>The developer build downloads as a Zero K= B executable for me - can you see if you see that as well?</div><div><br></= div><div>Josh</div><div><br><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Sep = 30, 2020, at 05:26, <a href=3D"mailto:scott-y6qSm6YX8/[email protected]" target=3D"_blank= ">scott-y6qSm6YX8/[email protected]</a> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Curren= t <a href=3D"http://supercollider.s3.amazonaws.com/builds/supercollider/sup= ercollider/osx/develop-latest.html" target=3D"_blank">develop builds</a> wo= rk (apart from notarization issues)=C2=A0on the=C2=A0Big Sur drop from a we= ek or two ago.</div><div><br></div><div>Big Sur support issues that I forse= e:</div><div><br></div><div>- [critical] Supernova needs to switch it's= realtime thread setup to use audio workgroups rather than manually schedul= ing threads via the lower level API's it's using now. This is likel= y a small engineering change, but will require some pretty extensive testin= g ... and god forbid we find a problem / performance regression.... Without= this change, Supernova may have some degraded performance, or may simply n= ot work.</div><div><br></div><div>- [minor] Audio Units v2 support on Big S= ur has seen some substantial changes (all AU plugins are now run out-of-pro= cess, and the thread calling semantics have changed significantly). SuperCo= lliderAU will need to be tested pretty extensively, and may need some chang= es - though we may be in the clear since we're engine-only and don'= t implement any proper UI.</div><div><br></div><div>- [cosmetic] We list QT= >=3D 5.11 as a minimum requirement. No Big Sur fixes will be backported= to 5.11, so we'll have to bump to at least 5.12. Big Sur backports *se= em* to be a guaranteed part of 5.12 LTS, but it's still worth testing 5= .12 to see if it is, in fact, fully supporting Big Sur.</div><div><br></div= ><div>Due to some of the Audio Units changes, I predict that Big Sur will h= ave a VERY long tail of work required by audio apps in general. Even more t= han usual, I think audio users will be staying=C2=A0on Catalina for a long = time - so very possibly SC could actually come out ahead of the curve here.= </div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" = class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 2:44 AM <<a href=3D"mailto:= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:= <br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8= ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Wed, Sep 30,= 2020 at 8:28 AM <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_b= lank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> > It did - I sent to both.<br> <br> That's good -- I saw only one (with [sc-dev] in the header) and<br> wondered about it.<br> <br> hjh<br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> sc-dev mailing list<br> <br> info (subscription, etc.): <a href=3D"http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/facilitie= s/ea-studios/research/supercollider/mailinglist.aspx" rel=3D"noreferrer" ta= rget=3D"_blank">http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/facilities/ea-studios/research/= supercollider/mailinglist.aspx</a><br> archive: <a href=3D"http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-dev/" rel=3D= "noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-d= ev/</a><br> search: <a href=3D"http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-dev/search/" rel= =3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-de= v/search/</a><br> </blockquote></div> </div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div> </blockquote></div> --000000000000aa97b505b0a0204f-- _______________________________________________ sc-dev mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/facilities/ea-studios/research/supercollider/mailinglist.aspx archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-dev/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-dev/search/