Re: Future of the lists

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Eternal thanks to Scott W for maintaining the mailing lists all these
years. These have been a continuously positive and helpful resource for me
for ~15 years of using SuperCollider, in no small part to both Scott W and
all the other core contributors answering messages, providing help, and
setting a positive tone.

The scsynth forum has also grown into an incredible positive and helpful
space over the years of its existence. To address a few things that have
come up in this thread:

- Discourse, the backend software for scsynth.org, *is a fully open-source
and community-run project (https://github.com/discourse/discourse
<https://github.com/discourse/discourse>).* A few years ago, when I looked
into modern and well-maintained mailing list / community discussion
platforms as an alternative to the current mailing list stack, Discourse
stood out to me as a clear winner in terms of stability, features,
easy-of-deployment, etc. It has been used by several other much larger OS
music communities (in particular, the lines forum <https://llllllll.co/>)
with great success.

- The current scsynth.org list was started by Ismael, with setup help from
a few other core SC community members (myself included). It's
currently moderated
and maintained <https://scsynth.org/g/moderators> by James Harkins, Josh
Parmenter, Julian Rohrhuber, Scott Wilson, James Surgener, Thomas
Capogreco, Ismael, and myself. This list fell together naturally, based on
people who were already core community members / who was paying attention
to the day-to-day operations of the forum.

- The forum is hosted as a docker image run on a Digital Ocean cloud
droplet. Backups are made regularly and are available to all
administrators, so there's no danger of "losing" archived material, and
anyone could spin up a new iteration of the forum if needed. In this sense,
it's truly a community owned platform for us.

- The forum has historically been self-funded by Ismael, with a few others
donating money - we're discussing starting a patreon / other funding source
to share this burden (though it's not widlly expensive), or possibly moving
to university-backed hosting, if we can figure out the details. The primary
concern here is that the forum is easy to maintain, and remains as
autonomous and community-operated / owned as possible.

- When I did an initial trial run of Discourse as a hosting platform, I
tested mailing list mode extensively. In testing, it appeared to work as
good or better than a traditional mailman/majordomo mailing lists - it is
possible to use the scsynth forum PURELY via email, including both creating
new topics and responding to topics. There was a short period in March
where mailing list mode settings changed due to an update, and mail didn't
get delivered for a few days - this should be resolved. *If you have
mailing list mode turned on <https://scsynth.org/my/preferences/email> and
are not receiving emails for all posts please post in Meta
<https://scsynth.org/c/meta/16>, because this definitely is a bug or
configuration issue.*

I'm going to do some more testing of mailing list mode in the coming week
or so, to make sure everything is configured correctly for an email-only
experience.* I'*ll post a short guide about my experience, hopefully to
address any remaining concerns about email-only usage.

I hope this clears up any confusion! If you have any issues or questions,
please send a message to the *moderators group* on scsynth.org and we can
address it. For anyone not already on the forum, welcome - we look forward
to seeing you!

- Scott C

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Eternal thanks to Scott W for maintaining the mailing=
 lists all these years. These have been a continuously positive and helpful=
 resource for me for ~15 years of using SuperCollider, in no small part to =
both Scott W and all the other core contributors answering messages, provid=
ing help, and setting a positive tone.</div><div><br></div><div>The scsynth=
 forum has also grown into an incredible positive and helpful space over th=
e years of its existence. To address a few things that have come up in this=
 thread:</div><div><br></div><div>- Discourse, the backend software for <a =
href=3D"http://scsynth.org" target=3D"_blank">scsynth.org</a>, <b>is a full=
y open-source and community-run project (<a href=3D"https://github.com/disc=
ourse/discourse" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/discourse/discourse</=
a>).</b> A few years ago, when I looked into modern and well-maintained mai=
ling list / community discussion platforms as an alternative to the current=
 mailing list stack, Discourse stood out to me as a clear winner in terms o=
f stability, features, easy-of-deployment, etc. It has been used by several=
 other much larger OS music communities (in particular, the <a href=3D"http=
s://llllllll.co/" target=3D"_blank">lines forum</a>) with great success.<br=
></div><div><br></div><div>- The current <a href=3D"http://scsynth.org" tar=
get=3D"_blank">scsynth.org</a> list was started by Ismael, with setup help =
from a few other core SC community members (myself included). It&#39;s curr=
ently <a href=3D"https://scsynth.org/g/moderators">moderated and maintained=
</a> by James Harkins, Josh Parmenter, Julian Rohrhuber, Scott Wilson, Jame=
s Surgener, Thomas Capogreco, Ismael, and myself. This list fell together n=
aturally, based on people who were already core community members / who was=
 paying attention to the day-to-day operations of the forum.</div><div><br>=
</div><div>- The forum is hosted as a docker image run on a Digital Ocean c=
loud droplet. Backups are made regularly and are available to all administr=
ators, so there&#39;s no danger of &quot;losing&quot; archived material, an=
d anyone could spin up a new iteration of the forum if needed. In this sens=
e, it&#39;s truly a community owned platform for us.<br><br>- The forum has=
 historically been self-funded by Ismael, with a few others donating money =
- we&#39;re discussing starting a patreon / other funding source to share t=
his burden (though it&#39;s not widlly expensive), or possibly moving to un=
iversity-backed hosting, if we can figure out the details. The primary conc=
ern here is that the forum is easy to maintain, and remains as autonomous a=
nd community-operated / owned as possible.</div><div><br></div><div>- When =
I did an initial trial run of Discourse as a hosting platform, I tested mai=
ling list mode extensively. In testing, it appeared to work as good or bett=
er than a traditional mailman/majordomo mailing lists - it is possible to u=
se the scsynth forum PURELY via email, including both creating new topics a=
nd responding to topics. There was a short period in March where mailing li=
st mode settings changed due to an update, and mail didn&#39;t get delivere=
d for a few days - this should be resolved. <b>If you have <a href=3D"https=
://scsynth.org/my/preferences/email">mailing list mode turned on</a> and ar=
e not receiving emails for all posts please post in <a href=3D"https://scsy=
nth.org/c/meta/16">Meta</a>, because this definitely is a bug or configurat=
ion issue.</b><br><b></b></div><div><br>I&#39;m going to do some more testi=
ng of mailing list mode in the coming week or so, to make sure everything i=
s configured correctly for an email-only experience.<b> I&#39;</b>ll post a=
 short guide about my experience, hopefully to address any remaining concer=
ns about email-only usage.<b><br></b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div>I hop=
e this clears up any confusion! If you have any issues or questions, please=
 send a message to the <b>moderators group</b> on <a href=3D"http://scsynth=
.org">scsynth.org</a> and we can address it. For anyone not already on the =
forum, welcome - we look forward to seeing you!<br><br>- Scott C<b><br></b>=
</div><div><b><br></b></div><div><b></b><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><=
/div></div>

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