Re: sc-users is closing down

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One more thing - there's an extensive series of guides about using Discord
with a screen reader. I'm not sure how good the experience is, but given
that the guide is so extensive it seems promising?

https://www.starshipchangeling.net/discord/

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:22 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

> [email protected] writes:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > As some of you will know from the discussions here, this list will be
> closing
> > down. We=E2=80=99re encouraging all users to join the forum at
> https://scsynth.org/
>
> This is sad :-(
>
> I refrained from commenting during the discussion, mostly because I no
> longer think the exceptional situation of a single person can influence
> current trends, and likely also because I was afraid of the grief I
> would be feeling just having to participate in such a discussion.
>
> I see the trend since a few years.  Slack, Discorse, and of course web
> forumss.  All of these are pretty much excluding for me.
> I am blind.  And while I can use a modern web browser if I have to, the
> inherent inefficiencies and accessibility problems make it pretty much a
> no-fun experience.  Well-defined protocols like SMTP/IMAP made it easy fo=
r
> me to participate in a group like sc-users, because I was able to choose
> the client software I am able to use efficiently.
>
> In this particular situation, it will lead to me going into read-only
> mode.  I will likely not contribute to scsynth.org simply because I am
> forced to go via the web.  I might be able to stay in lurking mode as
> long as the RSS interface works and the post pages stay clean enough to
> be consumed with a text browser.  But I am assuming even that is going
> to go away after a few years.  Well, such is life.
>
> When I was young, I was hoping for computer accessibility to be an eye
> for the blind to the rest of the world.  After 25 years of surfing on
> the various waves of the Internet, I realize certain trends have
> actually done the contrary.  The list of things I know about and would
> want to
> take part in but can't because they are inherently inaccessible is
> growing on a daily basis.  At least at work I was able to crawl into my
> little corner of "command-line expert" and will maybe be able to hide
> there before I retire.  Maybe, we will see.
>
> I know that this letter is not going to change things, and I dont expect
> that.  But I have to say this aloud: The way the internet is going is
> wrong. Pretending otherwise doesn't make it right.
> Open standards are replaced with proprietary web-based interfaces.
> And nobody seems to care.
>
> Question is, how many years will it take until BLM could also mean
> "blind lives matter"?  Given the current trend, never.
>
> It was a pleasure to read you all, kthxbye
>
> --
> CYa,
>   =E2=A1=8D=E2=A0=81=E2=A0=97=E2=A0=8A=E2=A0=95
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<div dir=3D"ltr">One more thing - there&#39;s an extensive series of guides=
 about using Discord with a screen reader. I&#39;m not sure how good the ex=
perience is, but given that the guide is so extensive it seems promising?<b=
r><div><a href=3D"https://www.starshipchangeling.net/discord/"><br>https://=
www.starshipchangeling.net/discord/</a></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:22 P=
M &lt;[email protected]&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);=
padding-left:1ex"><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">i@s=
cottwilson.ca</a> writes:<br>
<br>
&gt; Hi All,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; As some of you will know from the discussions here, this list will be =
closing<br>
&gt; down. We=E2=80=99re encouraging all users to join the forum at <a href=
=3D"https://scsynth.org/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://scsy=
nth.org/</a><br>
<br>
This is sad :-(<br>
<br>
I refrained from commenting during the discussion, mostly because I no<br>
longer think the exceptional situation of a single person can influence<br>
current trends, and likely also because I was afraid of the grief I<br>
would be feeling just having to participate in such a discussion.<br>
<br>
I see the trend since a few years.=C2=A0 Slack, Discorse, and of course web=
<br>
forumss.=C2=A0 All of these are pretty much excluding for me.<br>
I am blind.=C2=A0 And while I can use a modern web browser if I have to, th=
e<br>
inherent inefficiencies and accessibility problems make it pretty much a<br=
>
no-fun experience.=C2=A0 Well-defined protocols like SMTP/IMAP made it easy=
 for<br>
me to participate in a group like sc-users, because I was able to choose<br=
>
the client software I am able to use efficiently.<br>
<br>
In this particular situation, it will lead to me going into read-only<br>
mode.=C2=A0 I will likely not contribute to <a href=3D"http://scsynth.org" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">scsynth.org</a> simply because I am<br=
>
forced to go via the web.=C2=A0 I might be able to stay in lurking mode as<=
br>
long as the RSS interface works and the post pages stay clean enough to<br>
be consumed with a text browser.=C2=A0 But I am assuming even that is going=
<br>
to go away after a few years.=C2=A0 Well, such is life.<br>
<br>
When I was young, I was hoping for computer accessibility to be an eye<br>
for the blind to the rest of the world.=C2=A0 After 25 years of surfing on<=
br>
the various waves of the Internet, I realize certain trends have<br>
actually done the contrary.=C2=A0 The list of things I know about and would=
 want to<br>
take part in but can&#39;t because they are inherently inaccessible is<br>
growing on a daily basis.=C2=A0 At least at work I was able to crawl into m=
y<br>
little corner of &quot;command-line expert&quot; and will maybe be able to =
hide<br>
there before I retire.=C2=A0 Maybe, we will see.<br>
<br>
I know that this letter is not going to change things, and I dont expect<br=
>
that.=C2=A0 But I have to say this aloud: The way the internet is going is<=
br>
wrong. Pretending otherwise doesn&#39;t make it right.<br>
Open standards are replaced with proprietary web-based interfaces.<br>
And nobody seems to care.<br>
<br>
Question is, how many years will it take until BLM could also mean<br>
&quot;blind lives matter&quot;?=C2=A0 Given the current trend, never.<br>
<br>
It was a pleasure to read you all, kthxbye<br>
<br>
-- <br>
CYa,<br>
=C2=A0 =E2=A1=8D=E2=A0=81=E2=A0=97=E2=A0=8A=E2=A0=95<br>
<br>
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