Re: Website CMS questions

"Erik Hartman" <[email protected]> Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:12:45 +0100
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Peter,

I like your conclusion. And yes, the discussion here is getting a bit
personal and 'religious'.
>From the past I know that most list members don't like that. Better take
your personal comments off list, please.

In July this year there was a similar discussion that I tried to
summarize at our CM Pros Benelux blog
(http://cmprosbenelux.org/2006/07/22/open-vs-closed-source-content-manag
ement-systems).

I'll make a new blog entry with a summary of this recent discussion, as
far as it has real content for other readers. How about that?

Cheers,

Erik

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> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] Namens Peter Dresslar
> Verzonden: dinsdag 31 oktober 2006 22:47
> CC: [email protected]
> Onderwerp: Re: [CMS] Website CMS questions
> 
> I'm not sure we'll actually have a winner to this debate, 
> since it goes back to a time when there was still Star Trek 
> and it was still Good.
> 
> -Peter
> 
> Austin, Darrel wrote:
> >> So the incentive to make the product easy to use and require as 
> >> little support as is possible is built-in. Can you say the 
> same thing 
> >> for a model based on OpenSource (i.e. no licensing costs)? 
> I would be 
> >> most interested in hearing about it! (really!)
> >>     
> >
> > Of course you can. Like I said, this can be spun in any direction.
> >
> > For the OS spin:
> >
> > OS software is a product of developers. Developers who spend time 
> > working on the product not for monetary gain, but for 
> pride. They take 
> > pride in their craft and strive to produce good, solid, usable 
> > products not just to please any specific customer, but to 
> please themselves.
> >
> > Of course, the more practical spin is the exact same one you used:
> >
> > OS developers don't want to spend time supporting their product 
> > anymore than commercial vendors do. As such, they want to write a 
> > good, solid application to reduce the amount of time 
> supporting end users.
> >
> >   
> >>> In the end, make a good product. That's all that matters. 
> >>>       
> >> But that statement ignores the underlying problem: does the model 
> >> promote making a "good product".
> >>     
> >
> > I'm not hear to argue whether or not OS is a viable 
> business model. It 
> > clearly is. Just as commercial software sales appears to be 
> a viable 
> > business model. To write one or the other off is just silly.
> >
> >   
> >> Indeed... and yet your initial comment was:
> >>  > The only difference between OS and Commercial CMS 
> products is that 
> >> you  > pay more for one up front. ;o)
> >>     
> >
> > Smilie = typically meant to imply a statement was said partially in 
> > jest/toungue in cheek/not meant to instigate an all out debate. 
> > (though the debate is enjoyable and seems to be fairly civil thus 
> > far... ;o)
> >
> > -Darrel
> >
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