Re: Forms Based sure, but could that mean to a custom DB table?

"K. Wasetis" <kwasetis-/[email protected]> Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:10:50 -0600
Newsgroups gmane.comp.cms.general
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Paul, sorry if that was more info that you bargained for.  Most people
starting with a tool appreciate more versus less.

I use various open source CMS tools and didn't mean to come off line an
OpenCMS zealot, but it is a solid choice from what you've mentioned your
needs are - all but one, anyhow - workflow.

If you have serious workflow needs, get ready to extend any of the open
source cms tools.  With open cms, there is built-in 'four-eyes' workflow
(edit/submit --> review/publish), but it isn't really enforced out-of-box.
It's more of an email notification that you have something to review if
someone creates a workflow task.  It's not as automated as I'd like to see,
but it's more than many of the oscms tools have.

Cheers,

Ken

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From: "P.Hill & E.Goodall" <goodhill-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [cms-list] Forms Based sure, but could that mean to a custom DB
table?


> K. Wasetis wrote:
> > OpenCMS [...]
> > lacks some of the goodies that the blogger type open source CMSes (*Nuke
> > types) have.
>
> I have no interest in blogger type CMSes, I have 'stuff': DB entries,
> images w/ metadata, on-line articles (HTML),  on-line documents (.PDFs
etc.)
> to manage and and I want to involve editor and contributors so
> I'm thinking CMS.  Anyone who thinks this coming in from the 'bottom'
> into CMS is inappropriate do pipe in.
>
> My interest is not in inventing another on-line newspaper, but in
> leveraging the ability of CMS to manage users, manage submission
> workflow and deal with page changes even if my case is not as dynamic
> as most.
>
> > I think it's solid, especially if you have a preference
> > for running/maintaining/extending Java apps over others.
>
> That is what my 'literature survey' seemed to indicate.
>
> [...]
> > You pose a pretty specific OpenCMS question and will likely want to join
the
> > opencms mail-list (go to http://opencms.org and check the 'Development'
menu
> > at the top for the link.)
>
> Okay, thanks I'll take a look over there.
>
> [...]
> > These docs have
> > advantages, but the downside is you'll need to spend an hour to install
the
> > vanilla environment to run OpenCMs (Tomcat and MySQL), which a
non-techie
> > can handle usually.
>
> Already have this stuff on Win XP and various Linux boxes, so sounds like
a
> great approach.
>
> [...]
> > This process will take Java development
> > knowledge (which it seems you have), and while it isn't a built-in user
> > feature that can be accomplished from the web interface as with some
> > commercial tools
>
> A little help from an IDE plugin was all I'd dream of, but I assume
> it would actually be something involving some XML configuration and
> implementing the appropriate interfaces.  The URL to the discussion forum
you
> listed sounded like just the kind of peak 'under the hood'
> I wanted to read before I tried any CMS and also confirms the
> level of detailed required.
>
> > there is added flexibility in being
> > able to define what pre/post actions should happen when one of your
content
> > items is created/destroyed.
>
> Sounds good.  Why don't all CMS do this?
>
> Thanks also for the links and documentation discussion which I won't
quote.
> (Geez people can we have a little trimming of your posts, please!)
>
> Ken, it sounds like your a big fan of OpenCMS, some of the discription
> you gave is probably off topic from what I need but helped none-the-less
> even if it bordered on an advertisement for OpenCMS.
>
> thanks,
> -Paul
>
>
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