Re: Multilanguage portal with Jahia Community Edition

"Dimitrios Zavaliadis" <[email protected]> Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:00:37 +0300
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OK, now it's much clearer :-)

Thank you for your time Stephane.

Best regards,
Dimitris


On 10/4/07, St=E9phane Croisier <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Dimitris,
>
> This would be a bit too easy, isn'it?
>
> The Jahia codebase is divided in two parts with two distinct licenses:
> - the community part which is released under a 100% open-source MPL-like
> license. This corresponds roughly to 80% of the codebase.
> - Commercial extensions released under a more restricted but still with
> full source code license: the sustainable license (www.sustainablesoftwar=
e.infofor more information).
> So even if you have the source code of such extensions as part of the
> overall Jahia distributions and even if you are free to take a look into
> them, modify them or even redistribute them, you are only entitltes to us=
e
> them for research and development purposes. As soon as you want to use th=
em
> for production, you need to pay some royalties (that you can pay in cash.=
..
> or in kind by contributing to the software).
>
> This what we call our "sustainable business model". We offer for free 80%
> of the codebase but we still need to make our livings. So active
> contributors get free credit licenses and other need to pay a form of cas=
h
> contribution to the project. Like for any associations where you have som=
e
> yearly subscription fees... I think this is quite fair given the amount o=
f
> work and investments all current stakeholders provided to this project.
>
> Cheers,
> St=E9phane
>
> At 23:42 03.10.2007, Dimitrios Zavaliadis wrote:
>
> Sorry, maybe it wasn't quite clear what I meant.
>
> I'm not going to build the multilanguage module from scratch. This
> wouldn't make any sense!
> What I asked instead, was whether it would be possible to get a
> full-fledged version of Jahia ( i.e. without the limitations of the
> community edition) by downloading and building (using Maven or Ant) the
> source.
>
> Best regards,
> Dimitris
>
>
> On 10/3/07, *St=E9phane Croisier* <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The Jahia Community Edition is open source so yes, you can fork it and
> redevelop yourself another multilanguage module on top of it.
>
> However I am quite sure that this will take you much more time and budget
> than buying the multilanguage module... We are working on it for the last=
 3
> years... so this is not a tricky and easy development.... Now of course I
> can not restrict someone to reinvent the wheel ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> St=E9phane
>
>
> At 11:52 03.10.2007, you wrote:
>
>  Thanks Stephane,
>
> Well, would it be possible if I downloaded the source code and build it o=
n
> my own?
>
> Many thanks
> Dimitris
>
> On 10/3/07, St=E9phane Croisier <[email protected]> wrote: Hi,
> Multilanguage support is only available as part of the Standard Edition
> (commercial add-on module). So you will need to buy the Standard Edition
> of Jahia in order to activate multilanguage support.
> St=E9phane
> At 09:18 03.10.2007, you wrote:
> >Hi all, > >I'm using the Jahia Community Edition, and >therefore the
> "Manage languages" option in the >Administration interface is not
> activated. >However, it's essential for my portal to provide >at least tw=
o
> languages (English and Greek for the time being). > >Is there another way
> to add extra languages? > >Many thanks in advance, >Dimitris >___________=
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OK, now it&#39;s much clearer :-)<br><br>Thank you for your time Stephane.<=
br><br>Best regards,<br>Dimitris<br><br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On 10/4/07, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">St=E9phane Croisier</b> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8=
ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>
<br>
Hi Dimitris,<br><br>
This would be a bit too easy, isn&#39;it?<br><br>
The Jahia codebase is divided in two parts with two distinct
licenses:<br>
- the community part which is released under a 100% open-source MPL-like
license. This corresponds roughly to 80% of the codebase.<br>
- Commercial extensions released under a more restricted but still with
full source code license: the sustainable license
(<a href=3D"http://www.sustainablesoftware.info/" target=3D"_blank" onclick=
=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
www.sustainablesoftware.info</a> for more information).<br>
So even if you have the source code of such extensions as part of the
overall Jahia distributions and even if you are free to take a look into
them, modify them or even redistribute them, you are only entitltes to
use them for research and development purposes. As soon as you want to
use them for production, you need to pay some royalties (that you can pay
in cash... or in kind by contributing to the software). <br><br>
This what we call our &quot;sustainable business model&quot;. We offer
for free 80% of the codebase but we still need to make our livings. So
active contributors get free credit licenses and other need to pay a form
of cash contribution to the project. Like for any associations where you
have some yearly subscription fees... I think this is quite fair given
the amount of work and investments all current stakeholders provided to
this project.<br><br>
Cheers,<br><span class=3D"sg">
St=E9phane</span><div><span class=3D"e" id=3D"q_11569c7986a3e2c6_2"><br><br=
>
At 23:42 03.10.2007, Dimitrios Zavaliadis wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">Sorry, maybe it wasn&#39;t quite
clear what I meant.<br><br>
I&#39;m not going to build the multilanguage module from scratch. This
wouldn&#39;t make any sense!<br>
What I asked instead, was whether it would be possible to get a
full-fledged version of Jahia ( i.e. without the limitations of the
community edition) by downloading and building (using Maven or Ant) the
source.<br><br>
Best regards,<br>
Dimitris<br><br>
<br>
On 10/3/07, <b>St=E9phane Croisier</b>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"ret=
urn top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">[email protected]</a>&gt;
wrote:<br>

<dl><br>

<dd>The Jahia Community Edition is open source so yes, you can fork it
and redevelop yourself another multilanguage module on top of it.<br>
<br>

</dd><dd>However I am quite sure that this will take you much more time and
budget than buying the multilanguage module... We are working on it for
the last 3 years... so this is not a tricky and easy development.... Now
of course I can not restrict someone to reinvent the wheel ;-)<br><br>

</dd><dd>Cheers,<br>

</dd><dd>St=E9phane<br><br>
<br>

</dd><dd>At 11:52 03.10.2007, you wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<dd>Thanks Stephane,<br><br>

</dd><dd>Well, would it be possible if I downloaded the source code and bui=
ld
it on my own?<br><br>

</dd><dd>Many thanks<br>

</dd><dd>Dimitris <br><br>

</dd><dd>On 10/3/07, St=E9phane Croisier
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"ret=
urn top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">[email protected]</a>&gt;
wrote:
<dl>
<dd>Hi,<br>

</dd><dd>Multilanguage support is only available as part
</dd><dd>of the Standard Edition (commercial add-on
</dd><dd>module). So you will need to buy the Standard
</dd><dd>Edition of Jahia in order to activate multilanguage support.<br>

</dd><dd>St=E9phane <br>

</dd><dd>At 09:18 03.10.2007, you wrote:<br>

</dd><dd>&gt;Hi all,
</dd><dd>&gt;
</dd><dd>&gt;I&#39;m using the Jahia Community Edition, and
</dd><dd>&gt;therefore the &quot;Manage languages&quot; option in the
</dd><dd>&gt;Administration interface is not activated.=20
</dd><dd>&gt;However, it&#39;s essential for my portal to provide
</dd><dd>&gt;at least two languages (English and Greek for the time being).
</dd><dd>&gt;
</dd><dd>&gt;Is there another way to add extra languages?
</dd><dd>&gt;
</dd><dd>&gt;Many thanks in advance,=20
</dd><dd>&gt;Dimitris
</dd><dd>&gt;_______________________________________________
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click=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">[email protected]=
rg</a>
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rget=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
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</dd><dd>&gt;
</dd><dd>&gt;
</dd><dd>&gt;
</dd><dd>&gt;Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
</dd><dd>&gt;Checked by AVG Free Edition.
</dd><dd>&gt;Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database:
</dd><dd>&gt; 269.13.30/1027 - Release Date: 24.09.2007 11:27<br>
<br>

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</dd><dd>- -- --- -----=3D[ scroisier at jahia dot com ]=3D---- --- -- -<br=
>

</dd><dd>Head of Products - Jahia Ltd, Route des Jeunes 9, 1227 Carouge
(Switzerland)<br>

</dd><dd>Jahia : The Professional Open Source Unified ECM <br>

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Site<br><br>
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</dd><dd>Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.<br>

</dd><dd>Checked by AVG Free Edition.<br>

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