Re: Dumping UI?

On Tuesday 01 June 2004 06:42 pm, Helge Hess wrote:
> On Jun 2, 2004, at 0:28, Benjamin Long wrote:
> > I've been working with Plone for about 4 months now. With all the
> > things that
> > are stalled when it comes to the WebUI,
>
> The WebUI is very well alive and kicking, you are spreading FUD, why?

Sorry, I didn't mean to come off like that. I just see many more people 
working on Plone and was wondering what would be possible. I know there are a 
lot of enhancement requests that are difficult to fulfill. My thinking was 
that if the UI was done in Plone the core ogo devels would have more time to 
work on the backend stuff.

>
> > has anyone ever thought of just dumping it and tying it into Plone?
>
> No, that would be complete nonsense. The WebUI is one of the greatest
> parts of OGo and a major part of its power.

Perhaps I'm just not familiar enough with the architecture of ogo. I thought 
that the power of ogo was mostly in the back end services.

> > Plone really needs a group calendaring system, and ogo really needs a
> > good WebUI.
>
> OGo has a _great_ WebUI. On the other side like all other software it
> obviously can't catch the requirements of all, so complementary
> additions make a lot of sense.
>
> Plone is quite good at providing very simple but customizable UIs and
> it might indeed be an option to write an optional, less powerful but
> simpler UI using Plone.
> Personally I would love to see Plone integration for embedding OGo
> objects into Plone websites (eg for building customer interaction forms
> which directly access OGo objects).

Thats kind of what I was thinking of, but I don't think that a Plone UI would 
be a less powerful one at all. I'm really quite amazed by what Plone can do. 

> > Both products speak XMLRPC and since Plone uses Python for it's
> > language there will be a lot more developers able to contribute. I'm
> > in the process of learning Python in my spare time right now.
>
> Nothing against OGo/Plone integration, this would be really _great_.
> But both are complementary products with a VERY different focus, one
> can't really replace the other.

Maybe if I was as deep into ogo as I am into plone I would feel the same way. 
Even so, I never would have thought of plone as a replacement for ogo. 
Instead I was simply asking about integration of the two.

Are there any python/ogo projects started yet? I'd like to look into them.

Benjamin Long
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