Re: New Website for opengroupware.org project

On Jun 27, 2005, at 14:32, Michael Brown wrote:
> Why throw away something (ie the Plone Docs site and
> the user docs site) when it only needs a face lift and
> a tune up?

Right now we are discussing a change for the main website, not the docs 
Plone. And we aren't discussing any "face lift" either, we just want to 
make it easier to change and submit content on the main website.

Yes, there are also (long known) issues with the docs Plone, but those 
can be reviewed later.

> Secondly, why not give Chris the access he needs to
> fix the current issues with the Plone sites?

Its kinda weird to talk about Chris in the third person, but since you 
don't seem to know (he certainly knows):
Chris can get any access he wants, he just needs to bother Frank with 
this. Toggling some firewall flags or adding an account is a matter of 
minutes.
You give the impression like this is being blocked. It isn't. AFAIK 
Chris has root/sudo access to the Plone vserver (and if not, he of 
course can get it from Frank).

> Let's hope we can settle this quickly and in the most CIVIL of
> fashions, because we don't want to loose any volunteers.

Hu? How do we _loose_ volunteers here? We just _gained_ one and this is 
something I'm happy about. Mario proposed a solution for a problem we 
have and I liked it.

Again: what I was primarly talking about with Mario on LinuxTag was the 
main website (www.opengroupware.org) which is NOT driven by Plone/Zope 
and never was. It is driven by a CMS I wrote a long time ago.

If some volunteer who knows Plone/Zope wants to present a rework of the 
main website done with Zope and/or Plone, please do so! I would love to 
see that and likely prefer it over a Wiki.
(BTW: plain Zope should be just fine for our needs)

To quote what I wrote before:
> I agree that everything requested can be done with Plone, and very 
> likely in a better way. The matter is who can do this and when.
...
> Again: I _know_ that there are Zope/Plone solutions for _all_ those 
> issues. Its just that we lack the experts and the time for that.
If my conclusion is wrong, please step up.

Greets,
   Helge
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