Re: [Tiki-devel] [Tiki-users] Tiki RoundTable Meeting - July 2021

Hello good people,

We had our Monthly meeting yesterday (15/07/2021)

The recording of the discussion is there : https://tiki.org/Roundtable-Meeting-2021-07

People are invited to vote for the next meeting schedule and to participate to organise the next TRM (add your name as facilitator) here : https://tiki.org/Roundtable-Meeting-2021-08

This is a short summary of things discussed.
(please keep in mind that this is a quick summary from my mind, feel free to add and adjust information)


* We discussed the way we prepare our TRM
** Bsfez volunteered to coordinate, advertise and organise them as official task till the end of the year
** Various dates and times will be proposed to allow more and different people to join
** Everyone is invited to propose topics and help to prepare meetings (during the meeting preparation time)
** When there is no enough topics proposed by volunteers they will be picked from Tiki medias (forums, pages, devlist, etc)

* Status on Tiki 23 release process
** Tiki23 was branched successfully and look pretty solid
** Due to awesome and good (big) stuff we branched a month later
** Due to next server issue we couldn't test and now we can keep the process moving forward (Alpha?, Beta)
** More work and task before the final release are to be planned
** Users are welcomed to test and reports Tiki23
** Gary mentioned that the SmartMenu addition is working fine

* Status on TikiFest Virtual 2021 Summer Workshops
** Not enough interest/request and previous volunteers didn’t come back on this event
** The event is "cancelled" for now (may be someone will plan another day)

* Site closed translation dilemma
** We should have a better way to manage (not through URL parameters) and edit (one language) text string on the page when everything else is down (no php)
** We have a ticket about this and more information will be put there
** Jonny mentioned that Wordpress has an original solution about this and Bernard will check (as well as other options) and report it in the ticket

* Improve setup.sh php version detection
** As the initiator of the question wasn’t with us we tried to figure and review a bit the feature
** Most of the people are ok with the way it is working (it is a dev tool)

* Menu option for Wizards integration in our new admin dashboard
** Jonny completed the integration into Tiki23 new admin menu

* Gitlab questions and answers
** Failure on pipeline was discussed (people reported it is broken now)
** Various test are performed and it is quit hard to understand what is critical and is not for common people
** While it is important to have them working and preventing Tiki to break merge request can be done
** Ricardo’s team implemented and seems to be in charge of this and with new addition (PR12) there are waves

* How to develop the new Admin Dashboard?
** Everybody seems to agree this is a great improvement (during the TRM and different occasion)
** There is a profile to install dashboard "plugins" (created from scratch by Jonny) and Xavi raised a issue about profile install return page
** While some setting were done without real discussion, we agreed the new Admin should be optional but enable by default (eventually a message/warning) will allow people to get back to legacy quickly
** Jonny profile was done in a rush and need to be improved (communication, update, ...), people are invited to try and give their recipes
** We saw that the dashboard is nicely integrated with Module (Admin) and fully customisable using existing Tiki tools
** We need an improvement so modules of features that are not used are not displayed (default dashboard)
** We have now (thanks Jonny) a plugin list module so we can virtually use any information from the Unified Index
** The name of "things" was discussed (as well as breaking all Admin documentation page) ;-)

* Status on Tiki Community 2021 Navigation Revamp
** Gary and Bernard presented the actual work done by the Navigation revamp team (with Aris, Carsten and Marc)
** People seems to like it and encouraged the implementation: 1 main top menu, 1 topbar menu per section (dev, doc, etc), a main content in the page (loaded visible screen)
** As the main ideas/principes have been discussed, Gary and Bernard have to set it (naming, prioritising important links by placement, etc)

Have nice week end,
Bernard


> On 14 Jul 2021, at 18:38 , Bsfez Tiki via TikiWiki-devel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone, 
> 
> Tomorrow, the 15th of July 2021 at 14:00UTC we will have our monthly Community meeting. 
> Below some of the topics of our 2 hours meeting you can join at : https://live.tiki.org <https://live.tiki.org/> 
> 
> Short discussions
> 
> 	• New way to populate TRM topics
> 	• Status on Tiki 23 release process
> 	• Status on TikiFest Virtual 2021 Summer Workshops
> 	• Site closed translation dilemma
> 	• Improve setup.sh php version detection
> 	• Menu option for Wizards integration in our new admin dashboard
> 	• Gitlab questions and answers
> 
> Longer discussions
> 
> 	• How to develop the new Admin Dashboard?
> 	• Status on Tiki Community 2021 Navigation Revamp (15 to 20mn ) - If we have time to present the work done.
> 
> 
> More details at : https://tiki.org/Roundtable-Meeting-2021-07 <https://tiki.org/Roundtable-Meeting-2021-07>
> 
> See you tomorrow ;-)
> Bernard
> 
> 
>> On 13 Jul 2021, at 18:11 , Jonny Bradley via TikiWiki-devel <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bernard
>> 
>> Yes, i saw that too - i vote (again) for this week if there's a tie as it always used to be the third Thursday of the month, and also Xavi seems to be available, so that's good! :)
>> 
>> I can do either though...
>> 
>> jonny
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 13 Jul 2021, at 12:49, Bsfez Tiki via TikiWiki-users <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> We have 2 dates with the same number of vote (15/07 or 18/07).
>>> With 20 hours left it is time to vote for who didn’t ! ;-)
>>> 
>>> Meeting page: https://tiki.org/Roundtable-Meeting-2021-07
>>> Meeting place : https://live.tiki.org/
>>> 
>>> With such short tie till the meeting I’m already publishing the topics (could and will change):
>>> 
>>> 	• New (practical) way to populate TRM topics Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist
>>> 	• Status on Tiki 23 release process
>>> 	• Status on Tiki Community 2021 Navigation Revamp - May shift to longer second hour topic
>>> 	• Status on TikiFest Virtual 2021 Summer Workshops - May shift to longer second hour topic
>>> 	• Tiki simple-error (site closed) translation dilemma 
>>> 		When closing a Tiki website we gave the option for the admin to edit the message. It sound like a good thing BUT on the other hand translation of the rest of the page may be impossible and if the admin of a french Tiki insert a french message 		the final screen for the end-user will look badly done. (half english and half french) 
>>> 		* Is it important to solve this 
>>> 		* Is it possible to avoid english/hardcoded strings (so the Admin wrote everything he want) 
>>> 	• Is there a delay between what we see at Gitlab and the reality see: https://tiki.org/forumthread77159-How-reliable-is-gitlab-informations
>>> 	• Do we need to improve setup.sh php version detection? See: https://tiki.org/forumthread77176-Really-annoying-requirement-for-php74-for-composer-Do-I-need-a-separate-setup-sh
>>> 
>>> 	• How to develop the new Admin Dashboard? 
>>> 	We need more "stuff"for the new Unified Admin Backend dashboard (and probably still a better name) but how should we add these new "Fluffies"? Discuss! 
>>> 	
>>> 
>>> See you there,
>>> Bernard
>>> 
>>>> On 11 Jul 2021, at 16:56 , Bsfez Tiki via TikiWiki-users <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> 4 days left to vote date and time and edit topics for our monthly meeting.
>>>> 
>>>> https://tiki.org/Roundtable-Meeting-2021-07
>>>> 
>>>> Bernard
>>>> 
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