Re: [Tiki-devel] [Tiki-users] Tiki RoundTable Meeting - July 2021

Thanks a lot for the moderation and reporting Bernard!

nice weekend/Shabat Shalom
Roberto

On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 6:05 AM Bsfez Tiki via TikiWiki-devel <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello good people,
>
> We had our Monthly meeting yesterday (15/07/2021)
>
> The recording of the discussion is there :
> https://tiki.org/Roundtable-Meeting-2021-07
>
> People are invited to vote for the next meeting schedule and to
> participate to organise the next TRM (add your name as facilitator) here :
> https://tiki.org/Roundtable-Meeting-2021-08
>
> This is a short summary of things discussed.
> (please keep in mind that this is a quick summary from my mind, feel free
> to add and adjust information)
>
>
> * We discussed the way we prepare our TRM
> ** Bsfez volunteered to coordinate, advertise and organise them as
> official task till the end of the year
> ** Various dates and times will be proposed to allow more and different
> people to join
> ** Everyone is invited to propose topics and help to prepare meetings
> (during the meeting preparation time)
> ** When there is no enough topics proposed by volunteers they will be
> picked from Tiki medias (forums, pages, devlist, etc)
>
> * Status on Tiki 23 release process
> ** Tiki23 was branched successfully and look pretty solid
> ** Due to awesome and good (big) stuff we branched a month later
> ** Due to next server issue we couldn't test and now we can keep the
> process moving forward (Alpha?, Beta)
> ** More work and task before the final release are to be planned
> ** Users are welcomed to test and reports Tiki23
> ** Gary mentioned that the SmartMenu addition is working fine
>
> * Status on TikiFest Virtual 2021 Summer Workshops
> ** Not enough interest/request and previous volunteers didn’t come back on
> this event
> ** The event is "cancelled" for now (may be someone will plan another day)
>
> * Site closed translation dilemma
> ** We should have a better way to manage (not through URL parameters) and
> edit (one language) text string on the page when everything else is down
> (no php)
> ** We have a ticket about this and more information will be put there
> ** Jonny mentioned that Wordpress has an original solution about this and
> Bernard will check (as well as other options) and report it in the ticket
>
> * Improve setup.sh php version detection
> ** As the initiator of the question wasn’t with us we tried to figure and
> review a bit the feature
> ** Most of the people are ok with the way it is working (it is a dev tool)
>
> * Menu option for Wizards integration in our new admin dashboard
> ** Jonny completed the integration into Tiki23 new admin menu
>
> * Gitlab questions and answers
> ** Failure on pipeline was discussed (people reported it is broken now)
> ** Various test are performed and it is quit hard to understand what is
> critical and is not for common people
> ** While it is important to have them working and preventing Tiki to break
> merge request can be done
> ** Ricardo’s team implemented and seems to be in charge of this and with
> new addition (PR12) there are waves
>
> * How to develop the new Admin Dashboard?
> ** Everybody seems to agree this is a great improvement (during the TRM
> and different occasion)
> ** There is a profile to install dashboard "plugins" (created from scratch
> by Jonny) and Xavi raised a issue about profile install return page
> ** While some setting were done without real discussion, we agreed the new
> Admin should be optional but enable by default (eventually a
> message/warning) will allow people to get back to legacy quickly
> ** Jonny profile was done in a rush and need to be improved
> (communication, update, ...), people are invited to try and give their
> recipes
> ** We saw that the dashboard is nicely integrated with Module (Admin) and
> fully customisable using existing Tiki tools
> ** We need an improvement so modules of features that are not used are not
> displayed (default dashboard)
> ** We have now (thanks Jonny) a plugin list module so we can virtually use
> any information from the Unified Index
> ** The name of "things" was discussed (as well as breaking all Admin
> documentation page) ;-)
>
> * Status on Tiki Community 2021 Navigation Revamp
> ** Gary and Bernard presented the actual work done by the Navigation
> revamp team (with Aris, Carsten and Marc)
> ** People seems to like it and encouraged the implementation: 1 main top
> menu, 1 topbar menu per section (dev, doc, etc), a main content in the page
> (loaded visible screen)
> ** As the main ideas/principes have been discussed, Gary and Bernard have
> to set it (naming, prioritising important links by placement, etc)
>
> Have nice week end,
> Bernard
>
>
> On 14 Jul 2021, at 18:38 , Bsfez Tiki via TikiWiki-devel <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Tomorrow, the 15th of July 2021 at 14:00UTC we will have our monthly
> Community meeting.
> Below some of the topics of our 2 hours meeting you can join at :
> https://live.tiki.org
>
> Short discussions
>
> • New way to populate TRM topics
> • Status on Tiki 23 release process
> • Status on TikiFest Virtual 2021 Summer Workshops
> • Site closed translation dilemma
> • Improve setup.sh php version detection
> • Menu option for Wizards integration in our new admin dashboard
> • Gitlab questions and answers
>
> Longer discussions
>
> • How to develop the new Admin Dashboard?
> • Status on Tiki Community 2021 Navigation Revamp (15 to 20mn ) - If we
> have time to present the work done.
>
>
> More details at : https://tiki.org/Roundtable-Meeting-2021-07
>
> See you tomorrow ;-)
> Bernard
>
>
> On 13 Jul 2021, at 18:11 , Jonny Bradley via TikiWiki-devel <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Bernard
>
> Yes, i saw that too - i vote (again) for this week if there's a tie as it
> always used to be the third Thursday of the month, and also Xavi seems to
> be available, so that's good! :)
>
> I can do either though...
>
> jonny
>
>
>
> On 13 Jul 2021, at 12:49, Bsfez Tiki via TikiWiki-users <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> We have 2 dates with the same number of vote (15/07 or 18/07).
> With 20 hours left it is time to vote for who didn’t ! ;-)
>
> Meeting page: https://tiki.org/Roundtable-Meeting-2021-07
> Meeting place : https://live.tiki.org/
>
> With such short tie till the meeting I’m already publishing the topics
> (could and will change):
>
> • New (practical) way to populate TRM topics Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist
> • Status on Tiki 23 release process
> • Status on Tiki Community 2021 Navigation Revamp - May shift to longer
> second hour topic
> • Status on TikiFest Virtual 2021 Summer Workshops - May shift to longer
> second hour topic
> • Tiki simple-error (site closed) translation dilemma
> When closing a Tiki website we gave the option for the admin to edit the
> message. It sound like a good thing BUT on the other hand translation of
> the rest of the page may be impossible and if the admin of a french Tiki
> insert a french message  the final screen for the end-user will look
> badly done. (half english and half french)
> * Is it important to solve this
> * Is it possible to avoid english/hardcoded strings (so the Admin wrote
> everything he want)
> • Is there a delay between what we see at Gitlab and the reality see:
> https://tiki.org/forumthread77159-How-reliable-is-gitlab-informations
> • Do we need to improve setup.sh php version detection? See:
> https://tiki.org/forumthread77176-Really-annoying-requirement-for-php74-for-composer-Do-I-need-a-separate-setup-sh
>
> • How to develop the new Admin Dashboard?
> We need more "stuff"for the new Unified Admin Backend dashboard (and
> probably still a better name) but how should we add these new "Fluffies"?
> Discuss!
>
>
> See you there,
> Bernard
>
> On 11 Jul 2021, at 16:56 , Bsfez Tiki via TikiWiki-users <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> 4 days left to vote date and time and edit topics for our monthly meeting.
>
> https://tiki.org/Roundtable-Meeting-2021-07
>
> Bernard
>
>
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