Re: [Tiki-devel] tiki-install.php | Tiki installer broken - need help with a strange problem (not sure if Tiki or provider-server specific)

Hi Torsten

That sounds very dull...

Looking at the code that "Tiki Installer Security Precaution" message is based on a session being started, so maybe there's something up with that?

What does tiki-check.php say about that? You usually need to reload it to start the session, on mine i get:

> session	 ok	   good	 	 This appears to work.


(even though i also have "session.save_path    bad   The session.save_path must be writable....")

It looks like we use different code to start the session in the installer compared to the rest of tiki, so maybe we need to tweak that somehow?

jonny




> On 17 Aug 2022, at 11:59, Torsten Fabricius via TikiWiki-devel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> # Tiki Installer Security Precaution ...
> 
> Hello Devs,
> 
> I need help, as I am stuck to find out, if a severe problem with tiki-install.php is specific problem of Tiki across several versions or if it is a specific problem with one service provider I use since many years.
> The provider used to be be very Tiki-friendly with very good cost-benefit-ratio and for example demo.tiki.org use(d?) to run there for several years.
> 
> 
> The Tiki installer (tiki-install.php) seems to not work anymore on all-inkl.com (Tiki-friendly shared hosting provider from Germany) aswell for new installations, as for upgrade of existing installations. There is another user with the same problem, but I do not yet know which provider he is using.
> 
> I tried with an existing database and I tried new installations with...
> * downloaded last-tiki aswell as with 
> * git Tiki 15, 18, 21, 24 and with 
> * svn Tiki 21.
> I tried PHP 5.6 (for an original Tiki 13 and for Tiki 15)...
> I tried PHP 7.2 and 7.4 for all Tiki 15, 18, 21 and 24.
> 
> Always the same problem:
> 
> After the installer got connected to the database first time (never mind of a new empty one oder an existing one to be upgraded), the installer does not work anymore. You can login to the installer, but whatever step you take, the installer throws you out with the error message:
> "Tiki Installer Security Precaution ..."
> 
> There is no way to go through the installer and no way to reach "enter and lock". The error message occurs without lock file!
> 
> Thus, if I am right, with all-inkl.com it is currently only possible to install or upgrade a Tiki when ssh command line access is available (which is not available with the two cheap tariffs). 
> If that would be a more global problem in Tiki and not or not only provider specific, we could lose all Tiki users who depend on cheap non-ssh-console webspace.
> 
> With the slightly pricier tariffs from all-inkl.com it is possible to checkout code from the version control and to use the php console to upgrade the database..
> 
> Currently I have not enough information wether it is a Tiki code problem oder an all-inkl.com specific problem (or a combination). I'd need assistance for the next steps to find a solution.
> 
> Any help or hint appreciated.
> 
> Best regards,
> Torsten
> 
> 
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