Re: [Tiki-devel] Admin UI friendliness

Hi all,

The Bootstrap Tour project is pretty dead and PluginTour doesn't work in 
Tiki branch 25. Even the demo on doc.t.o./PluginTour seems to just 
partially work.

So we need to find an alternative to Bootstrap Tour. Maybe

* Shepherd -- https://shepherdjs.dev/  or
* Vue Tour -- https://pulsardev.github.io/vue-tour/

-- or something else listed at:

* https://js.libhunt.com/bootstrap-tour-alternatives or
* https://www.libhunt.com/topic/tour

-- Gary


On 11/14/2022 6:59 PM, Bernard Sfez via TikiWiki-devel wrote:
> Hi Victor, All
>
> May be we could use the Tiki plugin tour on first landing on the page ?
> https://doc.tiki.org/PluginTour
>
> Beside dogfooding ;-), I imagine it will be nice to display a welcome 
> message on first time visit admin, and point to the essentials:
> - Usefulness of Search preferences
> - Setting search preferences filter
> - Start with General Settings
> - Enabling Features
> - Manage users
>
> Last words about;
> - Look & Feel
> - Registration & Log in
> - Multilingual => i18n (not everyone understand this)
> Welcome to the family enjoy your Tiki, help is available at Tiki forum 
> and Tiki doc
>
> May be;
> - Profiles
> - Wizards
> - Server check
>
> Seems to me a good opportunity to use our tools and improve the new 
> admin UX.
>
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>> On 14 Nov 2022, at 10:39, Victor Emanouilov via TikiWiki-devel 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have stumbled upon this before as well but new Tiki users find it 
>> really hard to enable advanced settings when they are completely 
>> unaware of the fact that we hide them by default in Admin UI. Here's 
>> a recent example I had with someone new to TIki trying to enable the API:
>>
>>
>> There is no clue that they need to enable advanced preferences in the 
>> small filter dropdown at the top left. Can we think of a more 
>> user-friendly way to convey this filtering options? I personally have 
>> searched for a setting for a few times while using Tiki and I am not 
>> even new to Tiki. Can you think of any good ideas to make this more 
>> user friendly? Improving the message on this page won't solve the 
>> issue as we have many such places in Tiki admin where settings are 
>> hidden and someone might be looking for them.
>>
>> Maybe a one-time warning message at the top that some preferences are 
>> hidden and they need to allow the corresponding filters to see? If 
>> they close the message, it shouldn't show again to stop bothering user.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Victor
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