Re: [Tiki-devel] Admin UI friendliness

Hello Gary,

> The Bootstrap Tour project is pretty dead and PluginTour doesn't work in Tiki branch 25. Even the demo on doc.t.o./PluginTour seems to just partially work. 
> 
I thought so at first when looking at the 3rd “slide” (black screen) but the slide is just orphan at the bottom of the screen.

Except that it seems ok on Tiki24.

For Tiki25 and bootstrap you know more than us. 😉 (was about to test tomorrow).

Bernard

> On 14 Nov 2022, at 16:54, Gary Cunningham-Lee <gary_c-39LOpZwlz1/[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> The Bootstrap Tour project is pretty dead and PluginTour doesn't work in Tiki branch 25. Even the demo on doc.t.o./PluginTour seems to just partially work. 
> 
> So we need to find an alternative to Bootstrap Tour. Maybe 
> 
> * Shepherd -- https://shepherdjs.dev/ <https://shepherdjs.dev/>  or
> * Vue Tour -- https://pulsardev.github.io/vue-tour/ <https://pulsardev.github.io/vue-tour/> 
> -- or something else listed at:
> 
> *  https://js.libhunt.com/bootstrap-tour-alternatives <https://js.libhunt.com/bootstrap-tour-alternatives> or 
> * https://www.libhunt.com/topic/tour <https://www.libhunt.com/topic/tour>
> -- Gary
> 
>  
> 
> On 11/14/2022 6:59 PM, Bernard Sfez via TikiWiki-devel wrote:
>> Hi Victor, All
>> 
>> May be we could use the Tiki plugin tour on first landing on the page ?
>> https://doc.tiki.org/PluginTour <https://doc.tiki.org/PluginTour>
>> 
>> Beside dogfooding ;-), I imagine it will be nice to display a welcome message on first time visit admin, and point to the essentials:
>> - Usefulness of Search preferences
>> - Setting search preferences filter
>> - Start with General Settings
>> - Enabling Features
>> - Manage users
>> 
>> Last words about;
>> - Look & Feel
>> - Registration & Log in
>> - Multilingual => i18n (not everyone understand this)
>> Welcome to the family enjoy your Tiki, help is available at Tiki forum and Tiki doc
>> 
>> May be;
>> - Profiles
>> - Wizards
>> - Server check
>> 
>> Seems to me a good opportunity to use our tools and improve the new admin UX.
>> 
>> Bernard
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>>> On 14 Nov 2022, at 10:39, Victor Emanouilov via TikiWiki-devel <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I have stumbled upon this before as well but new Tiki users find it really hard to enable advanced settings when they are completely unaware of the fact that we hide them by default in Admin UI. Here's a recent example I had with someone new to TIki trying to enable the API:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There is no clue that they need to enable advanced preferences in the small filter dropdown at the top left. Can we think of a more user-friendly way to convey this filtering options? I personally have searched for a setting for a few times while using Tiki and I am not even new to Tiki. Can you think of any good ideas to make this more user friendly? Improving the message on this page won't solve the issue as we have many such places in Tiki admin where settings are hidden and someone might be looking for them.
>>> 
>>> Maybe a one-time warning message at the top that some preferences are hidden and they need to allow the corresponding filters to see? If they close the message, it shouldn't show again to stop bothering user.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Victor
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