Re: [Tiki-devel] A default for the list of plugins, whose bodies should be indexed

Volker Wysk <post-hhF2Jplw28UoZk/[email protected]> Wed, 11 Jan 2023 13:23:21 +0100
Newsgroups	gmane.comp.cms.tiki.devel
Message-ID	<[email protected]>
Hi.

I'd like to volunteer to go through all 256 plugins and add searchability-
by-default information. After I've dealt with my new Smartphone. Something
like this:

        'searchable' => 'y',

This should take a few hours of work.

Volker


Am Samstag, dem 07.01.2023 um 16:40 +0100 schrieb Volker Wysk:
> Hi!
> 
> The easiest way of doing it, would be to just set a reasonable default for
> the "Exclude plugins" or the "Except included plugins" setting in the Search
> control panel.
> 
> But I'd like to suggest to do it the following way. We could have two
> settings in the Search control panel: "Include plugins" and "Exclude
> plugins". We'd also have defaults for all plugins, which would get
> overridden by those two settings.
> 
> Those defaults would be set in the "wikiplugin_..._info()" function in each
> plugin. We should also provide an easy way of displaying the defaults. This
> could be done with a button in the Search control panel, named "Show
> defaults". It would open a window, which lists all plugins enabled and
> disabled by default.
> 
> I guess it would be rare that someone needs something different from the
> default, when a reasonable default has been chosen.
> 
> The system wide rules of inclusion/exclusion in search, could also be
> overridden by a per-occurrence attribute "searchable", the way Rick has
> proposed.
> 
> Cheers,
> Volker
> 
> 
> Am Freitag, dem 06.01.2023 um 18:31 -0500 schrieb Rick Sapir:
> > To provide additional flexibility, would it be useful to have this 
> > option on each plugin, that would override the global include/exclude list?
> > 
> > For example:
> > 
> > {DIV(searchable="y|n").....}
> > 
> > and the plugins noted by Volker could default to "y" (and the other 
> > plugins to "n").
> > 
> > And this would work as an override to the global include/exclude list. 
> > Just a thought....
> > 
> > 
> > -R
> > 
> > Rick Sapir
> > ricksapir.com
> > @ricksapir
> > 
> > Creating Content -- Managing Information
> > 
> > On 1/6/2023 2:24 PM, Jonny Bradley via TikiWiki-devel wrote:
> > > Hi Volker
> > > 
> > > That sounds like a great idea and shouldn’t be too hard to do, although setting multiple choice defaults can be a little tricky I seem to recal…
> > > 
> > > jonny
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > On 6 Jan 2023, at 19:09, Volker Wysk <post-hhF2Jplw28UoZk/[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Hi again.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm willing to try to check all of the plugins, so we can have a better
> > > > default.
> > > > 
> > > > Bye,
> > > > Volker
> > > > 
> > > > > Am Freitag, dem 06.01.2023 um 12:57 +0100 schrieb Volker Wysk:
> > > > > Hi all!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Search excludes, by default, the body parts of all Tiki plugins. You need to
> > > > > manually define the list of plugins, which should be indexed (or should not
> > > > > be indexed), in the Search configuration. The setting's name is
> > > > > "unified_included_plugins", for the case when you want to explicitly enable
> > > > > plugins, and leave all others disabled.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It is highly unintuitive, that no plugin bodies are searchable at all, by
> > > > > default. There're a lot of plugins which the user will expect to be
> > > > > searchable. It doesn't make sense not to include them from search. For
> > > > > instance, the Font, Indent, Div and Code plugins.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I've gone through the list of Tiki Plugins and compiled a list of plugins
> > > > > whose bodies should be searchable. This list isn't complete, since I didn't
> > > > > read the description of all plugins. They're just too many.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Here it is:
> > > > > 
> > > > > attach,box,code,copyright,div,dl,fancylist,fancytable,file,files,font,footnote,indent,lang,list,markdown,mono,quote,scroll,sort,split,sub,sup
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm asking the developers to include this list as a default, for the plugins
> > > > > whose bodies should be included, in the next Tiki version.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Volker
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