Re: [Tiki-devel] Manticore search documentation for power users

Thanks for sharing information and efforts for this promising new search engine.

Bernard

> On 3 Apr 2023, at 0:45, Marc Laporte <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hello Bernard and other future Manticore users,
> 
> So there are three parts to this:
> 
> 1- Having a properly running Manticore
> 2- Using Manticore with Tiki
> 3- How to compare Manticore to the other options?
> 
> My executive summary is
> 1- Install using instructions from Manticore doc/community
> 2- Once Manticore works, try a full rebuild (it should work), and keep an eye on it to see to detect if it fails a few hours after (my two test sites do).
> 
> 
> 1- Having a properly running Manticore
> 
> This is not the expertise of the Tiki community, so it's best to refer to the Manticore community.
> 
> We did copy a bit of info here: https://wikisuite.org/Manticore-Search but
> 1- This is the Manticore installer for WikiSuite and not a generic installer for Virtualmin (one day maybe we'll have a generic installer, but not soon)
> 2- The canonical version should always be the Manticore docs.
> 
> I recommend to not install the nightly builds. We did it at the beginning of the process to get the latest code, and to not report bugs for already fixed things.
> 
> 
> 2- Using Manticore with Tiki
> 
> branch 25x contains all the Manticore-related code from trunk:
> https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/commits/25.x
> 
> I want to dogfood Manticore for doc.tiki.org and dev.tiki.org ASAP on Tiki 25x.
> 
> We are now able to rebuild the index even for complex sites. And the rebuild works fine for the pre-dgofood of doc and dev:
> https://dev.tiki.org/Pre-dogfood-servers-for-Tiki-26-release-process#Trunk_with_Manticore
> 
> However, later Manticore crashes and we don't yet know why. I suspect the incremental index.
> 
> There are some commits about fixing crashes in Manticore which will soon be in a stable version:
> https://github.com/manticoresoftware/manticoresearch/search?o=desc&q=crash&s=committer-date&type=commits
> I am hoping our bug is solved there.
> 
> 
> 3- https://doc.tiki.org/Unified-Index-Comparison
> A new tool to compare (expect bugs):
> https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/blob/master/lib/core/Tiki/Command/IndexCompareEnginesCommand.php
> 
> 
> On a related note: I am not sure how, but I am sure we will leverage this in the future: https://doc.tiki.org/Manticore-Buddy
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Marc
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2 Apr 2023 17:30:01 +0300 Tiki developers [email protected] said
> 
>> Hey Jonny,
>> Thank you for sharing your experience on OSX and great to read it work.
>> I have more in mind to set it on my Debian11/Virtualmin server but every
>> little information will help to tune it right on time.
>> Not being in any hurry, I guess I will wait a little…  😉
>> Have a nice day,
>> Bernard
>>> On 2 Apr 2023, at 16:14, Jonny Bradley via TikiWiki-devel
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi Bernard
>>>> I managed to get it running on my Mac (Apple Silicon) eventually using a
>>> Docker image - first one i've successfully got to do anything useful! ;)
>>>> However, the setting were quite tricky to guess (think i had to use a
>>> debugger) so we should document these somewhere...
>>>> Ok, here's what i can see in the "inspect" page on the (macOS) Docker
>>> application:
>>>> Mounts
>>> /tmp.                 /tmp
>>> /var/lib/manticore    /Users/jonny/data
>>> (this was a bad choice - should have been something more like
>>> /Users/jonny/dev/manticore/data)
>>>> Ports
>>> 9306/tcp              0.0.0.0:9306
>>> 9308/tcp.             0.0.0.0:9308
>>> 9312/tcp.             0.0.0.0:9312
>>>> Hmmm, so somewhere, when you add the manticore Docker image, there's a place
>>> to add mounts and port mappings, however, i don't want to remove my container
>>> or image or whatever it is as i don't really know what i'm doing :)
>>>> The command line version instructions are here
>>> https://manticoresearch.com/install/ there may be some extra clues there but
>>> the extra mapping of /tmp is a tiki thing i think...
>>>> But it works! :D
>>>> HTH
>>>> jonny
>>>>>>>>> On 1 Apr 2023, at 10:02, Bernard Sfez via TikiWiki-devel
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> I’m interested in starting to test and run Manticore search.
>>>>>> While I’m certain it work on some dev environments due to feedback I saw
>>> here and there, I wonder if common mortal can start running it using the
>>> documentation available:
>>>>>> https://manticoresearch.com/install/
>>>>>>>> https://doc.tiki.org/Manticore-Search
>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts or advises ?
>>>>>> Bernard
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