Re: [Tiki-devel] importing content

Saša Janiška <gour-XQYBc/g6bItWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> Fri, 5 Oct 2018 19:24:44 +0200
Newsgroups	gmane.comp.cms.tiki.user,gmane.comp.cms.tiki.devel
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On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 18:07:43 +0200
Torsten Fabricius <[email protected]> wrote:

> adding Markdown as an option if it does not brake the current parser 
> would be quite nice.

:-)

> If any possible i would love to have it added similar as the WYSIWYG, 
> which stores the data in WikiSyntax and allows to use WikiPlugins
> inside the CKE based WYSIWYG and WikiSyntax Editors.

Today, while chatting with Bernard (Opening Hours) I mentioned to him
the following project:

https://github.com/hectorguo/CKEditor-Markdown-Plugin

(there is also https://github.com/ckeditor/ckeditor5-markdown-gfm)

which apparently brings markdown support to CKE, but I'm too ignorant
to know atm how it us used/inegrated withing Tiki.

> It would be great to then switch between the three editors WYSIWYG / 
> WikiSyntax / Markdown, all capable of parsing the same Wikiplugins.

Dreamland!

I know there is concern to keep parser for WIkiSyntax due to backward
compatibilits, LTS issue etc., but otoh, I believe that using some of
the PHP-markdown parsers listed here:

https://dev.tiki.org/Wiki-Parser-Revamp

would take the burden of maintaining one's own parser and leave Tiki
devs to work on other features.

For those users which do prefer WYSIWYG writing, there is still CKE,
but those familiar to use non-WYSIWYG editor (aka WikiSyntax) could,
with the time, switch to more standard markup like Markdown.

Here I do not want to mention that Markdown support would certainly
bring new users - between Grav CMS (~10K stars project, 2017 CMS Critic
Award for Best Flat File CMS) and Tiki, the latter is superior to me
due to its monolithic design (https://pluginproblems.com)

> If we get this done right, then we should use this occassion for a
> small (or big) marketing campaign!

I'd say that it would deserve a big one!!

> Not for coding, but for other stuff i could contribute after November 
> this year. Maybe we find a few more people to contribute to a/the
> campaign!?

If I see there is interest amongst Tiki dev to do it, iow. seeing it
could be an important evolution in Tiki's lifetime, I'm ready to
help/learn as much as I can, but if all this is just a "nice add-on" or
as Marc wrote "not on my personal or business roadmap.", then I'll
leave it here.

I understand that Tiki is not just another CMS, but many of the today's
most popular one are flat-file-bease and/or do support Markdown at
least. (personally I don't have anything against usage of DB, ぶut
flat-file CMS-es are, of course, easier to deploy.)


Sincerely,
Gour

-- 
A self-realized man has no purpose to fulfill in the discharge
of his prescribed duties, nor has he any reason not to perform
such work. Nor has he any need to depend on any other living being.

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