Re: good books

"marc" <[email protected]>
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> Is that the same theory in which every system has an member that cannot be
> described by the system's rules, but the member exists and is true
> nonetheless? I think it is called a Goedel sentence, not sure.
>
> I have seen that discussed in depth on the imdb.com's Matrix Revolutions
> board.  If it is the same theory, then yes it is very much whoa.

Yes. Goedel's Theorem essentially states that any sufficient axiomatic
system will have non-provable theorems.
As an example, mathematics cannot be proven. And that single sentence blew
away the entire Principia Mathematica that Alfred Whitehead and Betrand
Russell had spent years developing.
But the bigger whoa comes when you ask yourself: how could he prove that?

Combined with the Schrvdinger?s Cat,Suicidal Physicist
> thought experiments and the 'many worlds' interpretation of quantum
> mechanics description of reality itself,  reality , as experienced through
> sensation, can be thought to be irrelevant, with the remembered experience
> as the only thing 'real'.

Some of these thought experiments have been shown to be flawed, so I tend to
tread lightly.

I think therefore I am?  Did you see that
> episode of South Park where Kyle is reading all this metaphysical stuff
> like, Descartes, Hawkins, etc and, once he absorbs all this info, he
> disappears from reality only to come back as 'everything, but nothing'?  I
> feel that way alot. No, I don't disappear, but to read and understand what
> the most forward thinking people of our time are describing, it makes me
> want to either run screaming through the streets or destroy the universe
> or something ... I don't know.

Never seen South Park
don't miss it, I think :)

Marc
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