Re: What to do to get new users

And here is my 2c worth ...

Firstly, I will say that I do not know much about the group that manages
FPC and related tools. I am also relatively new to FPC but a long time user
of Delphi. Here is a newbies view of the world:

1. while the content on the website may be correct, it looks dated (first
impressions count
2. I cannot remember how many options there were regarding what to download
but stuck for a minute or two
From then on it was OK.

Now, to what I wanted to say... I joined this list last night because it
was suggested to me based on this topic. Depressing reading. I also
understand that users venting is a normal thing. (And then the messages
will prolly get picked up by AI and people read all about what's missing!)

Here are some questions/ideas/thoughts:

1. Will the ideas get collected and considered for the "next" version?
2. Is there, or should there be a roadmap to give users hope?

Also, are there things (features) in the language that we can leverage from
a marketing perspective - that you can build for a large number of devices
is not very useful (if the langage is flagging). Just my opinion.

Also, given that I have also have a YouTube channel, if there are things
you would like promoted for the benefit of the language, then let me know.
I would even appreciated collaborating with others.

But when ideas are put forward by the truck load, something has to be done
with these.

Cheers,
Tim
(The Silver Coder @silvercoder70 on YouTube)

On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 7:17 AM Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2024, Ralf Quint via fpc-pascal wrote:
>
> > Sorry, but there has been so much nonsense in this thread, I just had to
> add
> > my 2c as well.
> > On 10/15/2024 4:07 PM, Rainer Stratmann via fpc-pascal wrote:
> >> At the Lazarus Congress in Cologne in October 2024, it ended up being
> very
> >> interesting. An important question came up.
> >>
> >> Why are no new users coming to Lazarus/Freepascal?
> >> Why do we find it so difficult?
> >> How can we get new, younger users to come to us?
> >>
> >> The same questions came up over a year ago at a Freepascal/Lazarus
> meeting
> >> in
> >> Backnang.
> >>
> >> I have some answers:
> >>
> >> - The official Freepascal website doesn't look like the project is very
> >> lively.
> > An absolute non-factor. Yes, the "Latest News" seems to be dated, but
> then I
> > would prefer people involved in the project work on compiler related
> issues
> > rather than on web sites.
>
> Actually, my employer has already offered twice to sponsor a web-designer
> to
> overhaul the website. Money was not an issue. The idea was to announce a
> contest and to select a winning design. The designer gets then the money.
>
> I have proposed this to the FPC core team, after some insistance I managed
> to get a list of constraints from (if memory serves well?) 1 person.
>
> I admit I was put off by what I perceived to be a complete lack of
> enthusiasm
> for this plan in the team, so I put it in the refrigerator for the time
> being...
>
> My intent is to re-start the debate on this after 3.2.4 comes out.
>
> Just to say that I do think the site (20+ years old?) can use an overhaul,
> and that with the above plan, no developer time needs to be spent on it.
>
> Michael.
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