RE: RE: Toolbar Visual Style default

My 2cents: The interface is busy enough without doing extra stuff to it.

For instance it IS fun to use the halloween styled GUI in Toad Data Analyst but not when I'm under pressure to get some disaster straightened out. So some days when I need a grin I open TFDA just to look at that silly GUI.  Then I close it and dive into TFO using the "enhanced" GUI and get to work.

Aside: I'd rather see a linux and/or 64bit TFO than have you guys futz with the GUI.   .....well maybe a new Toad ribit would be nice...

DM Flad, DSCYF MIS Unit
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Lerch
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 12:49
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [toad] RE: Toolbar Visual Style default



ok, so that's 100% for Enhanced. This is contrary to an internal email I got yesterday regarding that style:

> One of the worst things about TOAD is how the DEFAULT interface is so old gray and dull, dated looking and looks an old java tool before Windows95.

we catch flak all the time about Toad's interface, how it's ugly, outdated, a joke and so forth. There's been an item on our MRD for about 8 years which simply states "Improve the Toad GUI." I think it means wave a magic wand over it and make it without any warts, make it slick and shiny, remove MDI, go with ribbons. I don't know what it means. But we catch flak for it all the time. It gets a bit tiring to hear it. When we cite what we hear on the boards we're dismissed with "yes, but that's just that tiny little subset and they don't represent the whole."

I think there are a lot of outstanding directions to move this product into without having to burn our time rewriting the interface. It wouldn't work anyway, as independently as all the developers work. If they were told to write screens according to a UI designers' output they'd probably walk out the door and go someplace where they could work more freely, as they've been accustomed to.

To get that sterling kind of Apple look you have to maintain vigorous control, partitioning your team into UI Designers, coders and so forth. We don't work that way. Thus the speed, thus the warts.

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From: [email protected]<mailto:toad%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:toad%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Rich Jesse
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:34 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:toad%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [toad] RE: Toolbar Visual Style default

Ian writes:

> Enhanced. The others are (even) worse (although I might decide to have a
> change & use the Office 2003 style)! Sorry, they all look a little dated
> now.

+1

...although I'd prefer Enlightenment if were available in the World of Win:
http://www.enlightenment.org

Rich -- [TeamT]

Disclaimer: It's feeling more than a little Drafty today!

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