Re: Local User Groups

Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]> Tue, 7 Jan 2020 11:29:36 +0000
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Sounds good,

Let's put a link "Looking to start a new User Group? Here's how.
<https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual> " to this page:
https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/

Quick question,
Happy to look into phrasing on wiki, however, I don't actually have access
to edit there. Do you know who can help with that?

thanks,
Valeria

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 6:54 AM Umair Shahid <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 9:59 PM Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 1/6/20 8:12 AM, Dave Cramer wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 04:57, Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]
>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Hi Umair,
>> >
>> >     Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super useful page.
>> >     Do you know if there is a particular reason why this info is not on
>> >     the main website?
>> >
>> >     I think it's super useful, so maybe we could put it
>> >     here: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ or at least
>> >     provide a link to the wiki (I guess, it depends whether or not we
>> would
>> >     like to keep using wiki for instructions like that - I personally,
>> >     think we shouldn't since only those who are already involved in the
>> >     community would be aware of wiki, others will most probably look for
>> >     information like that on the main website.).
>> >
>> >     All,
>> >     what do you think?
>> >
>> >
>> > Personally I find the wiki a terrible place to put anything. It is only
>> > useful if you know that what you are searching for exists and you have
>> > some vague notion of how to search for it.
>> >
>> > +1 for the main page
>>
>> I think the idea for this page being on the wiki was that it allowed for
>> changes to be made over time, e.g. if there was a new idea for how to do
>> something, a clarification, etc. It also has not been updated since 2015.
>>
>> That said, I would not be opposed to adding something on the website for
>> how to start a user group, etc. but I think we need to ensure we have
>> some "final" language we've agreed to. It's (relatively) easier to
>> modify a Wiki page than the website.
>>
>> Perhaps an interim step is to link to the wiki page from the website? We
>> can then work on what we would want the "user group operating manual"
>> page to say on the website, and once ready, commit that.
>>
>
> I think something as simple as "Looking to start a new User Group? Here's
> how ... " on this page: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ would
> do the trick.
>
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>>

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div><div dir=3D"ltr">Let&#39;s put a link &quot;Looking to start a new User=
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l">Here&#39;s how.</a> &quot; to this page: <a href=3D"https://www.postgres=
ql.org/community/user-groups/">https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-gr=
oups/</a></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" =
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v></div><div>Quick question,</div><div>Happy to look into phrasing on wiki,=
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an help with that?=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>thanks,</div><div>Valeria=
</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 6:54 AM Um=
air Shahid &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">umair.shahid@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=
ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 9:59 PM Jo=
nathan S. Katz &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank=
">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2=
04);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
On 1/6/20 8:12 AM, Dave Cramer wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 04:57, Valeria Kaplan &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vk@d=
ataegret.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br>
&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">vk@da=
taegret.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi Umair,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super u=
seful page.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Do you know if there is a particular reason why thi=
s info is not on<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the main website?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I think it&#39;s super useful, so maybe we could pu=
t it<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0here:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.postgresql.org/co=
mmunity/user-groups/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.post=
gresql.org/community/user-groups/</a>=C2=A0or at least<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0provide a link to the wiki (I guess, it depends whe=
ther or not we would<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0like to keep using wiki for instructions like that =
- I personally,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0think we shouldn&#39;t since only those who are alr=
eady involved in the<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0community would be aware of wiki, others will most =
probably look for<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0information like that on the main website.).=C2=A0<=
br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0All,=C2=A0<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0what do you think?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Personally I find the wiki a terrible place to put anything. It is onl=
y<br>
&gt; useful if you know that what you are searching for exists and you have=
<br>
&gt; some vague notion of how to search for it.=C2=A0<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; +1 for the main page<br>
<br>
I think the idea for this page being on the wiki was that it allowed for<br=
>
changes to be made over time, e.g. if there was a new idea for how to do<br=
>
something, a clarification, etc. It also has not been updated since 2015.<b=
r>
<br>
That said, I would not be opposed to adding something on the website for<br=
>
how to start a user group, etc. but I think we need to ensure we have<br>
some &quot;final&quot; language we&#39;ve agreed to. It&#39;s (relatively) =
easier to<br>
modify a Wiki page than the website.<br>
<br>
Perhaps an interim step is to link to the wiki page from the website? We<br=
>
can then work on what we would want the &quot;user group operating manual&q=
uot;<br>
page to say on the website, and once ready, commit that.<br></blockquote><d=
iv><br></div><div>I think something as simple as &quot;Looking to start a n=
ew User Group? Here&#39;s how ... &quot; on this page:=C2=A0<a href=3D"http=
s://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/" target=3D"_blank">https://ww=
w.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/</a>=C2=A0would do the trick.=C2=A0<=
/div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px=
 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Jonathan<br>
<br>
<br>
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