Re: Local User Groups

Dave Cramer <[email protected]> Tue, 7 Jan 2020 06:34:27 -0500
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On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 06:29, Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sounds good,
>
> Let's put a link "Looking to start a new User Group? Here's how.
> <https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual> " to this
> page: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/
>
> Quick question,
> Happy to look into phrasing on wiki, however, I don't actually have access
> to edit there. Do you know who can help with that?
>
> thanks,
> Valeria
>
>
Joe or Magnus can help with that. I think there is a link on the wiki to
specifically ask for it but hopefully one of them sees this

Dave Cramer


> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 6:54 AM Umair Shahid <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 9:59 PM Jonathan S. Katz <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 1/6/20 8:12 AM, Dave Cramer wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 04:57, Valeria Kaplan <[email protected]
>>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     Hi Umair,
>>> >
>>> >     Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super useful page.
>>> >     Do you know if there is a particular reason why this info is not on
>>> >     the main website?
>>> >
>>> >     I think it's super useful, so maybe we could put it
>>> >     here: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ or at
>>> least
>>> >     provide a link to the wiki (I guess, it depends whether or not we
>>> would
>>> >     like to keep using wiki for instructions like that - I personally,
>>> >     think we shouldn't since only those who are already involved in the
>>> >     community would be aware of wiki, others will most probably look
>>> for
>>> >     information like that on the main website.).
>>> >
>>> >     All,
>>> >     what do you think?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Personally I find the wiki a terrible place to put anything. It is only
>>> > useful if you know that what you are searching for exists and you have
>>> > some vague notion of how to search for it.
>>> >
>>> > +1 for the main page
>>>
>>> I think the idea for this page being on the wiki was that it allowed for
>>> changes to be made over time, e.g. if there was a new idea for how to do
>>> something, a clarification, etc. It also has not been updated since 2015.
>>>
>>> That said, I would not be opposed to adding something on the website for
>>> how to start a user group, etc. but I think we need to ensure we have
>>> some "final" language we've agreed to. It's (relatively) easier to
>>> modify a Wiki page than the website.
>>>
>>> Perhaps an interim step is to link to the wiki page from the website? We
>>> can then work on what we would want the "user group operating manual"
>>> page to say on the website, and once ready, commit that.
>>>
>>
>> I think something as simple as "Looking to start a new User Group? Here's
>> how ... " on this page: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ would
>> do the trick.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>

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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 06:29, Valeria =
Kaplan &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sounds good,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Let&#39;s put a link &quot;Looking to start a new User Group? <a h=
ref=3D"https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual" target=3D=
"_blank">Here&#39;s how.</a> &quot; to this page: <a href=3D"https://www.po=
stgresql.org/community/user-groups/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.postgres=
ql.org/community/user-groups/</a></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div></div><div>Quick question,</div><d=
iv>Happy to look into phrasing on wiki, however, I don&#39;t actually have =
access to edit there. Do you know who can help with that?=C2=A0</div><div><=
br></div><div>thanks,</div><div>Valeria</div></div></div></div></div></div>=
</div></div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Joe or Magnus can help wi=
th that. I think there is a link on the wiki to specifically ask for it but=
 hopefully one of them sees this</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=C2=A0<br =
clear=3D"all"><div>Dave Cramer</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 6:54 AM Umair Sha=
hid &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">umair.s=
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 =
at 9:59 PM Jonathan S. Katz &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
On 1/6/20 8:12 AM, Dave Cramer wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 04:57, Valeria Kaplan &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vk@d=
ataegret.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br>
&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">vk@da=
taegret.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi Umair,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super u=
seful page.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Do you know if there is a particular reason why thi=
s info is not on<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the main website?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I think it&#39;s super useful, so maybe we could pu=
t it<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0here:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.postgresql.org/co=
mmunity/user-groups/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.post=
gresql.org/community/user-groups/</a>=C2=A0or at least<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0provide a link to the wiki (I guess, it depends whe=
ther or not we would<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0like to keep using wiki for instructions like that =
- I personally,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0think we shouldn&#39;t since only those who are alr=
eady involved in the<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0community would be aware of wiki, others will most =
probably look for<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0information like that on the main website.).=C2=A0<=
br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0All,=C2=A0<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0what do you think?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Personally I find the wiki a terrible place to put anything. It is onl=
y<br>
&gt; useful if you know that what you are searching for exists and you have=
<br>
&gt; some vague notion of how to search for it.=C2=A0<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; +1 for the main page<br>
<br>
I think the idea for this page being on the wiki was that it allowed for<br=
>
changes to be made over time, e.g. if there was a new idea for how to do<br=
>
something, a clarification, etc. It also has not been updated since 2015.<b=
r>
<br>
That said, I would not be opposed to adding something on the website for<br=
>
how to start a user group, etc. but I think we need to ensure we have<br>
some &quot;final&quot; language we&#39;ve agreed to. It&#39;s (relatively) =
easier to<br>
modify a Wiki page than the website.<br>
<br>
Perhaps an interim step is to link to the wiki page from the website? We<br=
>
can then work on what we would want the &quot;user group operating manual&q=
uot;<br>
page to say on the website, and once ready, commit that.<br></blockquote><d=
iv><br></div><div>I think something as simple as &quot;Looking to start a n=
ew User Group? Here&#39;s how ... &quot; on this page:=C2=A0<a href=3D"http=
s://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/" target=3D"_blank">https://ww=
w.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/</a>=C2=A0would do the trick.=C2=A0<=
/div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px=
 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Jonathan<br>
<br>
<br>
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