Re: Health warning:

Justin <[email protected]> Tue, 17 Dec 2019 10:42:04 -0500
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Zahid

Open Source means Free Testing and Free code writing,  we all benefit.
You can write GUI pgadmin4 installer for  Linux

We welcome  CONSTRUCTIVE criticism  throwing up a link,  or snarky youtube
video then  saying "see I'm right",  will not get traction with people it
turns them off.  Remember we are doing this for FREE
Specifically how does EDB page support your position???

Enterprise DB maintains the windows installer as a give back to the
Community and promote Postgresql..   Postgresql installers have come a long
way over the years,  I remember a time when everything on Linux was
compile then install what a horrible amount of pain, Just getting the CD to
boot  to install Linux could  take  days because of hardware issues.

When writing criticism first step,  Document the issue, and be specific,
take screen shots, note the issue clearly then post it..

Postgresql has several ways to note and document issues,  Mailing Lists,
Wiki, IRC, create a Blog Post and post it on Planet.postgresql.org

99% of linux installers are done from the command line, and yes it goes
horribly wrong at times.

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 10:33 AM Adam Lipinski <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Zahid,
>
> Please contribute, your view is important. Quoting a commercial enterprise
> and how they choose to spend their development resource is a moot point.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Adam
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Zahid Rahman <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 17, 2019 11:29:41 PM
> *To:* Gerald Cheves <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* [email protected] <[email protected]
> >
> *Subject:* Re: Health warning:
>
> By support you mean I should do free tests and let you know where the
> problem  are.
>
> Anyway alot of talk but fail to address the issue , why a company
> "EnterpriseDB"  has provided installer.  The fact I have not received  to
> my original  query means you are all using the free  installer or managed
> to install it with sheer luck.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 17 Dec 2019, 15:23 Gerald Cheves, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 12/17/2019 10:17 AM, Zahid Rahman wrote:
> > Open source and community doesn't  have to mean *crap*   but it is free.
>
> You don't have to contribute and, likewise, you shouldn't expect support
> ... because, as you have indicated, it is free.
>
> - G
>
> --
> siamo arrivati sani e salvi
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Zahid</div><div><br></div><div>Open Source means Free=
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rite GUI pgadmin4 installer  for=C2=A0 Linux<br></div><div><br></div><div>W=
e welcome=C2=A0 CONSTRUCTIVE criticism=C2=A0 throwing up a link,=C2=A0 or s=
narky youtube video then=C2=A0 saying &quot;see I&#39;m right&quot;,=C2=A0 =
will not get traction with people it turns them off.=C2=A0 Remember we are =
doing this for FREE<br></div><div>Specifically how does EDB page support yo=
ur position??? <br></div><div><br></div><div>Enterprise DB maintains the wi=
ndows installer as a give back to the Community and promote Postgresql.. =
=C2=A0 Postgresql installers have come a long way over the years,=C2=A0 I r=
emember a time when everything on Linux was=C2=A0 compile then install what=
 a horrible amount of pain, Just getting the CD to boot=C2=A0 to install Li=
nux could=C2=A0 take=C2=A0 days because of hardware issues. =C2=A0=C2=A0 <b=
r></div><div><br></div><div>When writing criticism first step,=C2=A0 Docume=
nt the issue, and be specific,=C2=A0 take screen shots, note the issue clea=
rly then post it..=C2=A0=C2=A0 <br></div><div><br></div><div>Postgresql has=
 several ways to note and document issues,=C2=A0 Mailing Lists, Wiki, IRC, =
create a Blog Post and post it on <a href=3D"http://Planet.postgresql.org">=
Planet.postgresql.org</a></div><div><br></div><div>99% of linux installers =
are done from the command line, and yes it goes horribly wrong at times.=C2=
=A0 <br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 10:33 AM Adam Lipinski &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">



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Zahid,<br>
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:sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:black">
Please contribute, your view is important. Quoting a commercial enterprise =
and how they choose to spend their development resource is a moot point.<br=
>
<br>
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Best Regards,<br>
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Adam<br>
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le=3D"font-size:11pt" face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000"><b>Fro=
m:</b> Zahid Rahman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_=
blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 17, 2019 11:29:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gerald Cheves &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_=
blank">[email protected]</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pgsql-no=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected].=
org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Health warning:</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
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<div>
<div dir=3D"auto">By support you mean I should do free tests and let you kn=
ow where the problem=C2=A0 are.
<div dir=3D"auto">
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Anyway alot of talk but fail to address the issue , why a=
 company=C2=A0 &quot;EnterpriseDB&quot;=C2=A0 has provided installer.=C2=A0=
 The fact I have not received=C2=A0 to my original=C2=A0 query means you ar=
e all using the free=C2=A0 installer or managed to install it with sheer lu=
ck.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, 17 Dec 2019, 15:23 Gerald Cheves, &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br>
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,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
On 12/17/2019 10:17 AM, Zahid Rahman wrote:<br>
&gt; Open source and community doesn&#39;t=C2=A0 have to mean *crap*=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0but it is free.<br>
<br>
You don&#39;t have to contribute and, likewise, you shouldn&#39;t expect su=
pport <br>
... because, as you have indicated, it is free.<br>
<br>
- G<br>
<br>
-- <br>
siamo arrivati sani e salvi<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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