Re: Health warning:

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The simple solution is that who ever is testing the pgadmin4  installation
, if they did it on a clean machine  , it would save alot of pain.

When I worked in a software house I followed this practice every time. For
every project I did a clean install. I know it is time consuming. But it is
a best practice needs to be followed.

Because I knew I may have a setting or software installed from previous
project , so the user environment  would be different from development
environment.

Linux still has problems. Fedora 31 has wifi driver but ubuntu doesn't so I
am using USB wifi dongle with my new laptop.


On Tue, 17 Dec 2019, 15:46 Justin, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Zahid
>
> Open Source means Free Testing and Free code writing,  we all benefit.
> You can write GUI pgadmin4 installer for  Linux
>
> We welcome  CONSTRUCTIVE criticism  throwing up a link,  or snarky youtube
> video then  saying "see I'm right",  will not get traction with people it
> turns them off.  Remember we are doing this for FREE
> Specifically how does EDB page support your position???
>
> Enterprise DB maintains the windows installer as a give back to the
> Community and promote Postgresql..   Postgresql installers have come a long
> way over the years,  I remember a time when everything on Linux was
> compile then install what a horrible amount of pain, Just getting the CD to
> boot  to install Linux could  take  days because of hardware issues.
>
> When writing criticism first step,  Document the issue, and be specific,
> take screen shots, note the issue clearly then post it..
>
> Postgresql has several ways to note and document issues,  Mailing Lists,
> Wiki, IRC, create a Blog Post and post it on Planet.postgresql.org
>
> 99% of linux installers are done from the command line, and yes it goes
> horribly wrong at times.
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 10:33 AM Adam Lipinski <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Zahid,
>>
>> Please contribute, your view is important. Quoting a commercial
>> enterprise and how they choose to spend their development resource is a
>> moot point.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Zahid Rahman <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 17, 2019 11:29:41 PM
>> *To:* Gerald Cheves <[email protected]>
>> *Cc:* [email protected] <
>> [email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: Health warning:
>>
>> By support you mean I should do free tests and let you know where the
>> problem  are.
>>
>> Anyway alot of talk but fail to address the issue , why a company
>> "EnterpriseDB"  has provided installer.  The fact I have not received  to
>> my original  query means you are all using the free  installer or managed
>> to install it with sheer luck.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2019, 15:23 Gerald Cheves, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On 12/17/2019 10:17 AM, Zahid Rahman wrote:
>> > Open source and community doesn't  have to mean *crap*   but it is free.
>>
>> You don't have to contribute and, likewise, you shouldn't expect support
>> ... because, as you have indicated, it is free.
>>
>> - G
>>
>> --
>> siamo arrivati sani e salvi
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">The simple solutio=
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</div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">When I worke=
d in a software house I followed this practice every time. For every projec=
t I did a clean install. I know it is time=C2=A0consuming. But it is a best=
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=3D"auto">Linux still has problems. Fedora 31 has wifi driver but ubuntu do=
esn&#39;t so I am using USB wifi dongle with my new laptop.</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, 17 Dec 2019, 15:46 Justin, &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
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iv>Open Source means Free Testing and Free code writing,=C2=A0 we all benef=
it.=C2=A0=C2=A0 You can write GUI pgadmin4 installer  for=C2=A0 Linux<br></=
div><div><br></div><div>We welcome=C2=A0 CONSTRUCTIVE criticism=C2=A0 throw=
ing up a link,=C2=A0 or snarky youtube video then=C2=A0 saying &quot;see I&=
#39;m right&quot;,=C2=A0 will not get traction with people it turns them of=
f.=C2=A0 Remember we are doing this for FREE<br></div><div>Specifically how=
 does EDB page support your position??? <br></div><div><br></div><div>Enter=
prise DB maintains the windows installer as a give back to the Community an=
d promote Postgresql.. =C2=A0 Postgresql installers have come a long way ov=
er the years,=C2=A0 I remember a time when everything on Linux was=C2=A0 co=
mpile then install what a horrible amount of pain, Just getting the CD to b=
oot=C2=A0 to install Linux could=C2=A0 take=C2=A0 days because of hardware =
issues. =C2=A0=C2=A0 <br></div><div><br></div><div>When writing criticism f=
irst step,=C2=A0 Document the issue, and be specific,=C2=A0 take screen sho=
ts, note the issue clearly then post it..=C2=A0=C2=A0 <br></div><div><br></=
div><div>Postgresql has several ways to note and document issues,=C2=A0 Mai=
ling Lists, Wiki, IRC, create a Blog Post and post it on <a href=3D"http://=
Planet.postgresql.org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">Planet.postgres=
ql.org</a></div><div><br></div><div>99% of linux installers are done from t=
he command line, and yes it goes horribly wrong at times.=C2=A0 <br></div><=
/div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O=
n Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 10:33 AM Adam Lipinski &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ALipins=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">



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Zahid,<br>
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:sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:black">
Please contribute, your view is important. Quoting a commercial enterprise =
and how they choose to spend their development resource is a moot point.<br=
>
<br>
</div>
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:sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:black">
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Best Regards,<br>
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:sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:black">
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Adam<br>
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dir=3D"ltr"><font style=3D"font-size:11pt" face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" col=
or=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Zahid Rahman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:zahidr1000@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>&gt;=
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 17, 2019 11:29:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gerald Cheves &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_=
blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a> &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Health warning:</font>
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<div dir=3D"auto">By support you mean I should do free tests and let you kn=
ow where the problem=C2=A0 are.
<div dir=3D"auto">
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Anyway alot of talk but fail to address the issue , why a=
 company=C2=A0 &quot;EnterpriseDB&quot;=C2=A0 has provided installer.=C2=A0=
 The fact I have not received=C2=A0 to my original=C2=A0 query means you ar=
e all using the free=C2=A0 installer or managed to install it with sheer lu=
ck.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, 17 Dec 2019, 15:23 Gerald Cheves, &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">gcheves@ver=
izon.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
On 12/17/2019 10:17 AM, Zahid Rahman wrote:<br>
&gt; Open source and community doesn&#39;t=C2=A0 have to mean *crap*=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0but it is free.<br>
<br>
You don&#39;t have to contribute and, likewise, you shouldn&#39;t expect su=
pport <br>
... because, as you have indicated, it is free.<br>
<br>
- G<br>
<br>
-- <br>
siamo arrivati sani e salvi<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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